Looks good!  I do have some questions:

- assuming the bike is fairly level in the side pic, how do you find the 
feel of the ramps pointing down and then the levers sweeping up?  When I do 
this, and my hands are on the brake levers, it creates pressure around base 
of my thumb as the transition from bars to hoods isn't straight, and 
creates that negative space.  Your set up is more extreme than mine, and I 
really feel mine (in a bad way)
- if the flats are 6cm above, the hoods are maybe a smidge more, I would 
have loved to see your natural riding position to see your spine angle and 
arms, as I find if the bars are too high, I shrug my shoulders, how does it 
feel to you?

I ask not because I think I know the answers, but because I would love to 
have the bars higher, giving me a bit more upright position, the drops 
nearly parallel to the ground (which gives the ramps that downward slope), 
and have all this work...which it absolutely does not for me (we're all 
different, but sometimes I think I'm doing something wrong!).

Cheers

On Monday, June 1, 2026 at 6:48:42 PM UTC-4 DTL wrote:

> The BJ stem name is nothing compared to their LD stem...
>
> On Tuesday, June 2, 2026 at 1:49:09 AM UTC+10 [email protected] wrote:
>
>> The only drop bars that I can ride is Tumbleweed Big Dipper. They have 
>> short reach and shallow drop while looking aesthetically pleasing. 
>> https://tumbleweed.cc/products/bigdipper
>>
>> On Sunday, May 31, 2026 at 10:18:44 PM UTC-4 Steve wrote:
>>
>>> Determined to run drop bars on my 2025 Sam I have wound up in full 
>>> $$$hopping mode (my wife has even begun to give me a little side eye when 
>>> the packages arrive). I've posted a bit about this previously, but thought 
>>> I'd share what I've arrived at.  For context. my goal has been a setup that 
>>> competently handles forest roads and moderate trails, and is comfortable 
>>> for at least several hours of riding.  
>>>
>>> Brief recap: 
>>> - Tried a Nitto 132 Grand Rando bar with a 50mm Technomic stem. Comfy 
>>> but poor handling on chunky surfaces, especially when climbing.
>>> - Swapped in a 52cm Noodle. A too much reach to the hoods and the drops 
>>> ultimately proved to be too deep. This was with the bar a good 5cm above 
>>> the rear of the saddle.
>>>
>>> The pics show where I'm at currently- and hopefully the endpoint. 52cm 
>>> Cowchipper with Crust x Nitto "BJ" Stem. The flats are about 6cm above the 
>>> saddle and the drops 6 below it. (and yes, evidently Crust's name for the 
>>> stem is as off color as you may have suspected)
>>> Steve in AVL
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2973.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2971.jpeg]
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2972.jpeg]
>>>
>>

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