I rode 61 mm actual superduperlight Big Ones under custom Kelpie fenders,
with only ~1 cm between top of rear tire and fender where Chauncey had
misjudged bridge height by ~1 cm. I had about 2 cm between top of front
tire and underside of fender under the crown. The Big Ones of course are
semi-slicks.

I had no problems in some 7-8 years riding where fallen cottonwood branches
were likely, this despite often briefly pickup errant branches; doubtless
this was because the Big Ones are, again, semi-slicks and also because the
Kelpies use struts at least 50% thicker than your typical Honjo, Berthoud,
VOs, etc, and the fenders themselves are also about 50% bigger in gauge.
But my point is that with slicks or semi slicks, branch pick up is far, far
less of a problem than with knobbies.

I presently use ~54 mmThunderburt mini-knobbies under the same fenders,
with about an additional cm under each fender — so, about 2 cm rear, 3 cm
front.

OTOH again, I’ve seen an errant fallen cotton wood branch get into the
spokes and lock up the front wheel on a fenderless bike; so the problem is
not limited to fenders. Said branch locked the wheel, said bike did an
endo, with bike and rider rotating in majestic semi-slo-mo to full vertical
on tippy-tip of front tire, but said rider did a magnificent save and,
while coming to a complete stop, didn’t even fall over.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 5:40 PM Guy Jett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Rene Herse has a page on Requirements for good fender installation
> <https://www.renehersecycles.com/requirements-for-good-fender-installation/>.
> Seems very thoughtful.  Jan recommends an absolute minimum clearance of 20
> mm between the tire and any bridges and the fork crown.  And *30 mm as an
> ideal*.  Velo Orange states that a 10mm vertical clearance is OK but, for
> safety reasons, I would be skeptical  V-O does recommend a lateral
> clearance of 10mm to 12mm <https://velo-orange.com/pages/choosing-fenders>
> (with an absolute minimum of 8mm.  That's helpful.  Both these vendors sell
> only metal fenders.
>
> Rivendell takes a different stance, preferring plastic fenders by
> SKS/Esge/Blumels.  One advantage is the the safety release for front
> fenders that many come with.  These release if anything tries to jam the
> front fender.  In addition, they carry Portland Design Works safety tabs
> for attaching to metal fender stays, and also spare clips for SKS.
>
> All of the above have recommendations as to which width fender for which
> width tire.
> G.A.Jett
>
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 3:12 PM Eamon Nordquist <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> It's highly recommended to have quite a bit of room between fenders and
>> tires. Trying to squeeze the biggest tire you can physically cram under a
>> fender can be dangerous. It becomes too easy for a piece of road debris to
>> get caught between the tire and the fender. I've gone over the bars from an
>> accordioned front fender before - piece of branch got caught and pulled
>> into the fender. It's scary and can happen terrifyingly fast. I like 1.5
>> to 2 cm of clearance ideally. Rivendell suggests up to a 38 with fenders,
>> and 43 without. If you want bigger, maybe a Roadini is not the right bike?
>>
>> Eamon
>> Seattle
>> On Saturday, December 20, 2025 at 5:10:25 PM UTC-8 [email protected]
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m looking to get some wider RH tires for my 2025 Roadini. I have the
>>> SKS fenders on now with 39-40 (measured) tires and still seem to have quite
>>> a bit of room. If RH sold 42s, I’d get those but they don’t. It’s either 38
>>> or 44. So I’m thinking the 44s might actually work but I’m wondering if
>>> anyone has tried this? My rims are Velocity Quill which are quite wide at
>>> 24.5 so it could actually measure to 45. Oh, I’m talking about smooth tires
>>> by the way. I will carefully measure before I buy, but it’s always nice to
>>> hear others’ experiences. Thanks
>>
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