That's great.  Last year at the 5 boros ride, my brother and I were riding 
together wearing matching plaid shirts.  I don't think we planned it that 
way - we both started with other outer layers.  I random rider we passed 
said something like "you guys must do tweed rides."  I don't think he meant 
it as a dig, but it gave me pause. 

On Thursday, December 18, 2025 at 11:48:04 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I’ve told this story before, but once, years ago, I was multimoding into 
> work —5 miles by bike to express bus, 7 miles on bus across town, and 3 
> miles to office— wearing nice retrowinter cycling kit, including wool 
> cycling cap and nice Vittoria sheepskin-lined winter clip ‘n’ strap leather 
> shoes. The bus driver asked I I was dressed up for a costume party.
>
> On Dec 17, 2025, at 13:57, Kesler Roberts <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I was about to comment earlier but had to ride to the tailor to pick up a 
> new outfit.  True (kinda) story.  I was having elbow patches put on an old 
> sweater. As usual, BSNYC is right.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 17, 2025 at 2:03:36 PM UTC-5 Jonathan Carmack wrote:
>
>> Yeah I don’t know, I was able to finance about 2.5 Rivendell’s by selling 
>> a one year used, with some hard miles, sworks SL8.  That’s intangible value 
>> that doesn’t show up on paper.  But I value bikes by how they can be used, 
>> strictly utilitarian (don’t ask why I had a race bike, I’m recovering).
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2025 at 12:55 PM Patrick Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Snob’s post of today linked to one from 5 years ago, which contained 
>>> these remarks:
>>>
>>> *Thirdly–and perhaps most importantly–I recognize that there’s 
>>> fundamentally no difference between what Specialized and Rivendell are 
>>> doing, in that both are essentially selling premium two-wheeled recreation 
>>> to middle-aged people of means…though arguably Rivendell’s approach is far 
>>> more dignified if, like most middle-aged people, you don’t have the fitness 
>>> of a professional athlete. Even then, there’s still a sound argument to me 
>>> made that an over-Riv’ed rider looks just as silly as an over-Lycra’ed one, 
>>> because if you wear too much of that MUSA stuff at once you’ll wind up 
>>> looking like Robin Hood:*
>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, middle-aged (I wish!) person of means, owner past and 
>>> present of 6 Rivendells, in ABQ, NM.
>>>
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