On Tuesday, October 14, 2025 at 9:22:04 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

I understand your assertion, but I wonder what evidence supports it, 
theoretical or empirical. Seriously, I’m not being either contentious or 
finicky, just asking what seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable 
question, based on the consideration that pads that grip rims more strongly 
might also wear them more quickly.


First of all, I'll admit to not using these brake pads, so I have zero 
empirical evidence one way or another.

However, I don't know if I agree with the claim that "pads that grip rims 
more strongly might also wear them more quickly". My own experience is 
brake pads used in the dry doesn't wear down aluminum rims appreciably, 
even with thousands of miles of use. In fact, I have wheels that have seen 
tens of thousands of miles in mostly fair weather conditions with both 
Campagnolo and Koolstop pads, and they don't have that concave rim wall 
indicative of excessive wear (and I have an inexpensive specialized gauge 
<https://www.google.com/search?q=Iwanson+gauge> for this). Rims do wear 
quite a bit more when run in wet conditions, when grit comes into play, 
when grit embed themselves into the (soft) brake pads; no less than Jobst 
Brandt has opined on this topic <https://yarchive.net/bike/rim_wear.html>. 
So maybe the biggest contributor to rim wear isn't the gripping force, but 
under what conditions the wheels are used in and secondarily the type of 
brake pad material?
 

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