On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:26 PM Joe Bernard <[email protected]> wrote:

> I think it's a very cool frame (your build is AMAZING) but definitely a
> niche within the Riv niche. The road bike world is still quite conservative
> and getting them to accept pullback bars to match the long toptube is never
> going to be an easy sell. The dropped toptube is also a quirk some will
> balk at.
>

It's certainly true that the Charlie Gallop isn't a conventional road bike.
To be honest, though, there are plenty of reasons non racers won't pick the
Charlie Gallop as well. For instance, the ultra long chainstays mean that
the Charlie Gallop would be difficult to fit into a bike box to get onto a
plane to do a bike tour far from home. (That's also what turned me off the
Homer as well) That long wheelbase also can make it hard to fit into trains
or vans or cars. (I've done it with a tandem which is even longer, but
let's just say that I've had evil stares from fellow passengers, and
obviously some bus drivers are more helpful than others)

The pullback bars also are much much wider than narrow drop bars. So for
instance, while I can easily fit 2-3 drop bar bikes into the back of a
Honda Odyssey with the rear seats down), my wife's Cheviot would take up so
much room that I'd have to move it onto the roof rack instead even when I'm
planning to only move 2 bikes. In fact, a pull back bar at a crowded school
bike rack would necessitate that you'd park the bike backwards with the
rear wheel first, and in many cases a standard cable lock would have a hard
time reaching the rack in those situations, and don't even start talking
about a U-lock!

Don't get me wrong, I like my Roadini (my wife shot this video on
Saturday's ride: https://youtu.be/6hBpmSL6lRc?si=v7gIUKY-4WelAjk3), but the
additional weight is definitely felt when I lift it, and even with its
relatively short chainstays (still 2cm longer than my touring bike!), I
find that when I have to stand up and sprint it just doesn't accelerate the
way more touring bike does.

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