Nevermind the magnitude. Consider the source. Piaw Na in this very thread referred to an $80 derailleur purchase (vs the $28 alternative) as a "splurge on fancy parts". Now he's dissing a $65 cassette because a $400 cassette (that won't even fit on the target hub) is way lighter. HAHA!
Anyway, many gram chasers start to cringe when it's over $1 per gram. So in the situation where somebody has an XD driver, and a worn out cassette, then buying that Garbabuk looks like a bargain. I'm in a quandary over this thread and the LG700 cassette. It's expensive ($140) and heavy, but it's supposed to friction shift better than anything out there. I kind of need to try it, but I don't want to spend that kind of money on a heavy bike part. I'll keep waffling. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Wednesday, October 15, 2025 at 5:58:54 AM UTC-7 Will Boericke wrote: > How many $ per saved ounce do you want to spend? Eagle cassette is a $400 > part, Garbaruk is a relative bargain at $240. In my book, that's 6-10 of > the heavier cassettes. > > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 12:33 PM Piaw Na(藍俊彪) <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Both of those cassettes are relatively heavy (705g and 615g). The XX >> Eagle SRAM Cassette is 400g or so by contrast, and the Gabaruk equivalent >> is 300g or so. Going to a 300/400g cassette makes the 1x system way lighter >> than a 2x system, in addition to being more reliable. >> >> On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 9:30 AM Tyler Ryan <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> SunRace and Sram both make 12 speed cassettes that work with standard >>> hyper glide: >>> >>> >>> https://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/sram-pg-1230-eagle-12spd-cassette?adl=1&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=229749626&gbraid=0AAAAAD_gqPnoScVlJqWNtgVHXZSihHKdb&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6bfHBhDNARIsAIGsqLhgOb3WFFjH5DwMnX8yw6V6wNol1i5bVxyhEjg_OoUJsB_KLJFsbWAaAiJSEALw_wcB >>> >>> >>> https://www.universalcycles.com/shopping/product_details.php?id=97905&attribute=239724&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=793175996&gbraid=0AAAAAD8_PrUpT8qJ1MkE8_jIKj1-BVrF6&gclid=Cj0KCQjw6bfHBhDNARIsAIGsqLgmo1u3-Bm-hnYepaGfB7E8Ks8547WUNqrtPQQEZXp2hzPFcH_9g30aAhD9EALw_wcB >>> >>> I used the sram pg-1230 in a Shimano system(RD-M7100-SGS) and SLX >>> shifters with no issues on a Surly Troll. >>> >>> On Sunday, October 12, 2025 at 9:31:10 AM UTC-7 Hoch in UT wrote: >>> >>>> Apologies if I missed this. But I’m fairly certain going 12-speed will >>>> then limit your chainring/crank options, especially if you’re ST. And >>>> wheels, since you need microspline. Basically, everything needs to be >>>> 12-speed specific. >>>> I did that with SRAM and found out the hard/expensive way. >>>> >>>> These days, I stick to good old 8-9 speed parts. >>>> >>>> On Saturday, October 11, 2025 at 7:13:36 AM UTC-6 Bryan H wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you everyone for suggestions! I have decided to go with shimano >>>>> 1x12 on my lugged susie. I am still figuring out chainline and which >>>>> chain >>>>> ring to get. I posted in another thread but figured i would post it here >>>>> as >>>>> well. I have purchased a white industries 73x113mm BB to pair them up >>>>> with >>>>> paul 100% cranks. I am confused on which offset chainring i need to get >>>>> the >>>>> correct chain line. When i look at pauls chart its recommending i need -3 >>>>> or -6 offset to achieve a 49mm or 52mm chain line. Which in todays >>>>> standards is very odd as most chainrings are 0, 3, 6mm. I am not even >>>>> able >>>>> to find any minus chainrings for purchase. Any suggestions on this? I >>>>> attached a photo of Pauls chart, thank you! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, October 5, 2025 at 9:35:10 PM UTC-7 [email protected] wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The GRX 822 showed up first and I installed it! I expected a 20g >>>>>> weight savings but it turned out to be more like 60g. The barrel >>>>>> adjuster >>>>>> is also quite nice, and the niggling clacking noise on my bike is now >>>>>> gone. >>>>>> (And to think I was suspecting that the frame was cracking when it was >>>>>> just >>>>>> a rear derailleur pulley going bad!) >>>>>> >>>>>> [image: PXL_20251005_223900079.MP.jpg] >>>>>> >>>>>> On Friday, October 3, 2025 at 9:03:23 AM UTC-7 Piaw Na wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2025 at 8:56 AM Will Boericke <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Piaw, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m happy you posted this! My 5100 on a commuter lives a hard >>>>>>>> life. I disassembled, cleaned and greased and still have squeaks. >>>>>>>> I’ll >>>>>>>> order new pulleys. Perhaps replacement sealed bearing units? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I ordered both a replacement pulley set and found on eBay the >>>>>>> Ultegra level GRX822 rear derailleur which will work as a replacement >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> the entire derailleur for $80 + tax + shipping. 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