Hi Jamie,

As with so many other things, unfortunately the answer is "it depends"!

I think Will's advice re. type of bars and how to set them up is spot on. I 
find modern shallow-drop, relatively-short-reach handlebars to be 
enormously comfortable, and the best way to set up brake levers is to have 
them "coming out" of the top of the bars pretty evenly -- the continuous 
surface that Will mentioned.   (Note that modern bars are really so 
different from bars from even 15 years ago.  And bars from 25-30-40 years 
ago, with brake levers placed kind of on the middle of the drop portion of 
the bars?  I have no idea how anyone got comfortable on them!)

The rest really depends on the source of your discomfort.  If your bike is 
actually appropriate for drop bars (and it seems that most "modern" 
Rivendells are not), try to identify what's going on...   Are you 
uncomfortable because there is too much pressure on your hands?  In my 
experience maybe 15% of the time it's because the bars are too low, and 
you're falling "onto" the bars.  But I find that probably 80% of the time 
(and this being a Riv forum I'll probably get lectured about this) it's 
because the bars are too high, and what you're actually feeling is pressure 
coming from the handlebars onto your hands/shoulders/neck, and/or too far 
(in which case, while you're not falling onto the bars, you've got your 
body weight falling forward in a way that you can't relieve through your 
core or through your leg strength as you pedal).

I encourage you to, as you're riding, trying to imagine where your hands 
*would like to be*.  If you're riding along, and your back is at an angle 
that you're comfortable at, where would your hands be if you just let your 
arms extend gently out at about an 80-degree angle from your torso?  Would 
they be higher?  Lower?  Closer?  Further? 

And, if you can identify that spot, what would it take to get the 
handlebars into that position?  A different stem?  A different handlebar?  
A different stem/handlebar combination? 

Oh, also, handlebar positions depends a lot on body geometry.  Pro racers 
whose handlebars are so very low compared to their saddles?  Their back 
angles on the bike are not really all that different from most moderately 
serious recreational riders.  But they tend to have really long limbs, so 
their bikes are set up in ways that mere mortals could never contemplate.  
For those of us with *relatively* short arms, we'll need the handlebars 
higher and closer than those with relatively longer arms.  

(How do you know if you have relatively short or long arms?  When I sit on 
the ground with my legs straight out and my back perpendicular, I can't 
actually touch the ground with my palms.  I know people that sit the same 
way and their arms are bent at like a 120-degree angle.  Even if we're the 
same height, our handlebars will need to be set up completely differently 
in order for us to be comfortable.)

No idea if that helps...  Good luck!

Elisabeth Sherwood
Washington, DC 



On Monday, September 8, 2025 at 12:28:42 PM UTC-4 Jamie D. wrote:

> I keep trying drop bars in various forms and fashions and can never seem 
> to get comfortable. Obviously this is subjective but in your experience is 
> higher bars with shorter reach the most comfortable? Is there a 
> 'goldilocks' zone? Any wisdom you could share would be greatly appreciated!

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