On Wednesday, September 10, 2025 at 9:44:44 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

I’m at the stage where I no longer like working on bikes; I’d much rather 
ride them. So adding a fourth bike to my stable, even a very nice road 
bike, will have its drawbacks in that regard. I was happy when I whittled 
my stable down to 3 customs that suited my own kind of riding very nicely — 
short, =/< 30 miles, but agressive — I was surprised to find that Sunday’s 
40 mile ride left me feeling the next day no different from one of my usual 
20 mile fixed gear out and backs on a windy afternoon. Only, one of the 
whole points of this new kind of longer but slower riding is to go further 
afield, and this means longer and steeper hills; and at 70 I no longer feel 
like, or — to be honest, am capable of — grunting a fixed gear even with 
25% IGH gear reduction up steep mile-long hills as I could do back when I 
was a youthful 60-something.

My experience, now in my "youthful 60-somethings", has been than total bike 
weight, within a range, hasn't made much difference in how I feel climbing 
steep grades. Even being a relatively light person, a few pounds don't 
significantly change my total package weight. It's really about having a 
gear that lets me ride at a comfortable cadence at a climbing rate I can 
maintain, on a frame and cockpit setup that puts me in the right position 
and (in combination with the tires) feels "lively". That "lively" feel is 
pretty elusive and, for me, not perfectly correlated with weight. My Heron 
road bike, the prototype first frame, has super heavy seat and chain stays, 
not especially light frame tubes, but a very supple fork. I love the feel 
of it and most of my climbing PRs are on it.

My approach to the scenario you've painted would be to find a used bike 
that seems close to what I think I want, ride and tweak it for a while to 
see if it really is what I'm looking for, then make a decision about 
spending more on something nicer/more custom. But, I still like doing all 
my own wrenching and enjoy the tweaking process.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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