What will be my granddaughter's 4th Woom (predictably, a Woom 4) is hanging 
in the garage awaiting Christmas. I've been nothing but impressed with each 
of the Woom bicycles we've gifted her, starting with the Woom 1 balance 
bike. They're very well built with decent components, but maybe most 
importantly, they are comparatively light weight. They are a bit pricey, 
but used ones, if not quite abundant, are out there.

As a bit of an aside, to my mind, weight is a critical attribute for a kids 
bike. Consider that a 30lb bike for a 160lb adult equals ~ 19% of their 
weight,  while a 12lb bike equals 30% of a 40lb child's weight.  A 
comparably heavy bike for that same adult would weigh in at 48lbs. 

Steve in AVL

On Monday, September 1, 2025 at 11:13:37 PM UTC-4 matt miller wrote:

> Hi Bob,
> We had a Cleary 15” but I couldn’t find an Owl locally.it was no longer 
> pandemic, so I looked into other brands and then found a Cannondale Quick 
> locally. No suspension, V-brakes. Not as nice as Cleary, but it’s still 
> overkill for my kid. And lighter, which helps because she’s small.
>
> For next, I’ve seen Trek,Woom, Soecialized and Cannondale have 
> non-suspension offerings.
>
> As much as I’d like to see her rides Riv, I mostly look for a bike that 
> fits her well, gives her confidence, and builds a love of cycling.
>
> Matt in STL
> On Monday, September 1, 2025 at 7:35:48 PM UTC-5 Bob B wrote:
>
>> Hoping to come by a secondhand Cleary Owl 3-speed. I’m not up on what non 
>> department store kids bikes are good these days that dont also have disc 
>> brakes and a suspension fork, which are especially overkill for a kid 
>> whonis less than 50lbs. Any other good options, new or used out there that 
>> should also be on my radar?
>>
>> Riv Content: I vaguely remember riv recommending Cleary back in the day, 
>> probably for the reasons above. Am I wrong?
>>
>

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