It has been too long — ~30 years — since I (mistakenly) set up a road bike
with saddle all the way forward and bar on a 140 mm stem 6” below saddle,
but I don’t recall the position hurting my hands, or neck for that matter;
of course I was in my late 30s or early 40s. OTOH, with a setup
diametrically opposite, saddle relatively far back and bar raised and much
closer in, I also find that that this makes my torso muscles hold up my
body weight and keeps my hands light on the bar; this is what Peter White
points out.

On Fri, Aug 8, 2025 at 8:05 PM Garth <[email protected]> wrote:

> … In moving myself so far forward I found out some interesting things.
> First, it lightens the load on the hands, even with drops below the saddle.
> The trunk and legs are supporting most of the weight, the more forward I am
> the less reach to the bars I need also.  No upper body strain at all. The
> “upright" riding equating to less strain is another myth that has me
> scratching my head how it so often repeated.
>

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