On Friday, August 8, 2025 at 7:28:10 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

In regards to saddle and rail and forward positioning, of the saddles I 
have, the Ergon SM and WTB Volt inherently are the most forward positioned, 
combining rails with the shape of the saddle itself. 


This is a part of bike fit that I find frustrating. Saddle makers typically 
give you only the width and length of the saddle. But those two dimensions 
tell you almost nothing about how the saddle will work for you, except for 
comparing two widths of the same brand/model of saddle. The most important 
dimensions, in terms of fore/aft fit, are 1) where is the point of butt 
contact with the saddle relative to the center of the clamp area of the 
rails, and 2) what is the length of the clamp area of the rails. I measured 
these on the small collection of saddles I have and they vary widely - 
we're talking centimeters, not millimeters. If you have a saddle with a 
35mm clamp area and a seatpost with a 25mm clamp, you have +/- 5mm of 
latitude in fore/aft placement. You can change your fore/aft placement by 
20mm, easily, swapping to a different saddle. Good luck finding that out 
without first laying out the cash for that saddle! 

And, on the post topic, I second the vote that saddle position relative to 
BB has made a fair amount of difference for me in finding long-distance 
comfort. 

Also, I have found that fascial counterstrain PT has made an enormous 
difference for my comfort on the bike, correcting a long-term hip tilt and 
associated issues, as well as helping recover from a couple of compression 
fractures in my vertebrae. After a couple of treatments I felt symmetrical 
on a bike for the first time ever. In my experience, pain issues have 
developed over time without me really recognizing them until they get to 
the point where I can't ignore them. So, I've gone for extended periods 
with bike fit issues that took a while to manifest into real discomfort. 

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA

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