I see what you mean...however, the Roadeo made-to-order still by Mark 
Nobilette might check the lightweight, lively box,  from RBW's and owners' 
experience . But since it's not a production bike...it's  not really their 
bread and butter.

On Sunday, August 3, 2025 at 12:17:49 AM UTC-5 Shannon Menkveld wrote:

> The newer road bikes' tubesets are significantly stouter than the frames 
> of yore. Yeah, they're stronger. But they're also a lot stiffer, and I 
> don't care for stiff road bikes, especially ones that will be ridden mostly 
> for fun, and lightly loaded. I know why they're the way that they are, and 
> for that kind of road bike, they're among the best in the world.
>
> But they are different bicycles. And that's all I meant.
>
> --Shannon
> On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 8:01:59 PM UTC-7 Dan wrote:
>
>> I was going to say that "pretty, sporting, 
>> mostly-fun-with-a-bit-of-practical, lightweight, several-purpose production 
>> road bike" describes the Roadini very well from my half-year experience 
>> owning one!
>>
>> On Saturday, 2 August 2025 at 21:24:58 UTC+9:30 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> Shannon wrote," The pretty, sporting, 
>>> mostly-fun-with-a-bit-of-practical, lightweight, several-purpose production 
>>> road bike isn't dead, and Rivendell gets a lot of the credit for that being 
>>> true... even if they don't make a bike like that anymore. "
>>>
>>> Not to nit-pick but  ...they still have lugged Roadinis on the 
>>> production schedule and the limited edition $2800 Roadeo frame by Nobilette 
>>> available and the HH which slot into the fun, pretty,practical 
>>> slot...Hillborne would fall into this category too....so they do still make 
>>> them. 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, August 2, 2025 at 1:36:53 AM UTC-5 Shannon Menkveld wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't know that I have a "grail Rivendell." I do know that I want a 
>>>> Clem somethin' fierce, or even better a Platy set up pretty much the same 
>>>> way, but sprightlier and prettier. I was, and am, deeply into what the 
>>>> various sporting road Rivs had going on, when they still made that kind of 
>>>> bike. They don't, really, but others do... Mercian, for example, just got 
>>>> saved from the grave, and slots into a similar niche. 
>>>>
>>>> The pretty, sporting, mostly-fun-with-a-bit-of-practical, lightweight, 
>>>> several-purpose production road bike isn't dead, and Rivendell gets a lot 
>>>> of the credit for that being true... even if they don't make a bike like 
>>>> that anymore. They did it when basically nobody else was, and now that 
>>>> several people are, they don't really need to anymore. Still, I will one 
>>>> day own a sporting road Rivendell, because that's what I've wanted since I 
>>>> first became aware of their existence about 25 years ago.
>>>>
>>>> --Shannon
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 1, 2025 at 12:02:55 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I remember seeing Dominic's orange Clementine posted and absolutely 
>>>>> fell in love. I didn't think I would ever find one, nor really tried. I 
>>>>> snagged a newer Clem Jr. I decided to sell off my Crust Romanceur I, to 
>>>>> my 
>>>>> delight, was offered a 59 clementine in orange on trade! The deal nearly 
>>>>> fell through due to some cracking on the bent tube - only to realize it's 
>>>>> the really really really horrible thick paint. 
>>>>>
>>>>> It probably took me 3 years to track down an affordable Clem from when 
>>>>> I decided it might be the way to go - another year before I was offered 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> clementine non trade on a fluke. So probably only 4-5 years? My only 
>>>>> regret 
>>>>> is not getting a Rivendell sooner. The Orange Clementine is my all time 
>>>>> favorite bike Rivendell has produced, probably only seconded by the 
>>>>> Hunqapillar. I like the tighter wheelbase and deep orange and blue 
>>>>> lettering. It just really hits the spot. The new Clem's FEEL great - and 
>>>>> even had an orange run - but the clementine just is a little tighter to 
>>>>> my 
>>>>> liking. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 5:37:46 PM UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My grail Rivendell is the 2014 Sam Hillborne. I knew it would be a 
>>>>>> keeper early on. Still exceedingly pleased with it. Previous Rivs have 
>>>>>> been 
>>>>>> an Atlantis, Rodeo, Clem (H model), and Taiwan built Homer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Rich in ATL
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, July 31, 2025 at 2:02:43 PM UTC-4 [email protected] 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Finding my grail Rivendell took virtually no time at all. I heard 
>>>>>>> about Rivendell from a wise friend. I appreciated the aesthetic 
>>>>>>> immediately. I sat on a Hillborne in a shop. It felt so right that I 
>>>>>>> bought 
>>>>>>> one as soon as feasible. That was 2010. It has always been and is still 
>>>>>>> my 
>>>>>>> primary bike today. (My secondary bike has been a 2012 Hillborne of 
>>>>>>> different color but pretty much identical.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously I was pretty lucky. Had I sat on a different Rivendell 
>>>>>>> model would I have had the same response? Maybe, maybe not. Maybe I 
>>>>>>> would 
>>>>>>> have rushed out, spent far too much money on something not as perfect 
>>>>>>> for 
>>>>>>> me as a Hillborne, and spent the remainder of my years on the edge of 
>>>>>>> poverty, buying/building-up frame after frame, seeking perfection that, 
>>>>>>> once missed, may have not been obtainable in the wake of the trauma of 
>>>>>>> initial failure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>> Thomas Lynn Skean
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 26, 2025 at 1:01:40 PM UTC-5 
>>>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know I am looking for a unicorn: a Hunq or Bomba in the 56-58cm 
>>>>>>>> range, so it seems to be taking a long time which is fine. The search 
>>>>>>>> has 
>>>>>>>> become a bit of a fun hobby in itself and I have no shortage of other 
>>>>>>>> bikes 
>>>>>>>> to ride so I'm ok there too...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I am curious, for others who have looked for and eventually 
>>>>>>>> found their "grail" Riv. What was your experience like? How long did 
>>>>>>>> it 
>>>>>>>> take? Did you get lucky and find something quick? Or did it take 
>>>>>>>> weeks, 
>>>>>>>> months, years or searching? Did anyone give up and go with a different 
>>>>>>>> model? Or something slightly too big or small that they regret buying? 
>>>>>>>> Anyone end up getting a completely different bike all together? Share 
>>>>>>>> your 
>>>>>>>> quest for your dream bike!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Joe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>

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