@ Brenton:  Maybe not as light as you are hoping to go, but I recently 
asked Rich Lesnick at RBW to build up the lightest *alloy* 650b wheel he'd 
be comfortable me using for local races: I love how agnostic he is about 
parts selection and we settled on Velocity A23 rims + White Industries T11 
hubs (spokes = 28 front + 32 rear).  It shaved 400+ grams (nearly a full 
pound) from the "allroad" wheelset I had been using.  (In 2008, Rich built 
Mavic Open Pro wheels on Ultegra hubs for my Rambouillet, and those 
transformed the Ram from "blah" to "wow.")  But maybe there is wisdom in 
crowds?  Of the 1500 Gran Fondo NY riders, I was one of only a handful I 
spotted on alloy wheels (or rim brakes for that matter).

Will M
NYC


On Tuesday, June 3, 2025 at 9:40:14 PM UTC-4 Jay wrote:

> I have two wheel sets for my Roadini, H Plus Son with 43mm GKSS for mixed 
> surface, and Dura-Ace C24 with 30mm Vittoria tires that are usually 
> $160/tire (I got a great deal), they are amazing but likely fragile.  The 
> bike feels 2-3 pounds lighter when I carry it up from my basement; the 
> front wheel alone is so light it's almost silly.  I have this wheel set for 
> road riding with my friend, who's faster than me.  I like that the C24 has 
> an aluminum braking surface so I can run two wheel sets (I just adjust the 
> Tektro brakes with each swap, only takes a few minutes to dial them in.  I 
> already had these wheels from previous road bike (now retired to the indoor 
> trainer which I ride as infrequently as possible).  They feel faster to me, 
> but I like having both for choice of riding conditions and purpose (e.g., 
> meandering with the GKSS).
>
> On Monday, June 2, 2025 at 10:10:24 PM UTC-4 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> I support the comments here, which suggest trying to use a supple, 
>> lightweight tire--it will make a big difference if you are not using one 
>> now. I'm happy with my Velocity A23/quill rims. 
>>
>> Best of luck,
>> Toshi in Oakland
>>
>

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