For the record, I'm measuring a 30mm derailleur hanger length on the Susie 
Longbolts. My 1994 Bridgestone MB3 has a 28mm derailleur hanger. 

-k. 

On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 4:53:22 PM UTC-5 Kirke Campbell wrote:

> Andy - I love those Suntour dropouts and have often thought about sourcing 
> a pair to use if I ever get a custom frame built. And if you were rocking a 
> 34t cassette and a 26-36-46t in the front with a long cage XC Pro, then I 
> feel like I can probably pull off what I'm planning as well. 
>
> -k.
>
> On Wednesday, April 9, 2025 at 9:06:31 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Not an expert (Paul Brodek rest in peace) but I have a soft spot for the 
>> sunTour derailleurs especially the XC pro. 
>>
>> The hanger specs got tight with indexing (volumes to read there amongst 
>> all the players) and the rear axles no longer had slots.
>> [image: Screenshot 2025-04-09 at 9.06.40 AM.png]
>> Here you can see that the axle position of these Suntour dropouts are 
>> nearly vertical, creating a fixed dimension from axle center to the center 
>> of the threaded derailleur mounting hole. That's the specification and 
>> Suntour even produced dropouts in several axle-dropout dimensions, all 
>> being within their derailleurs' ability to adjust to their satisfaction. 
>> (Johnny Coast built my rando frame with the dropout on the right with two 
>> mounting points). With a 30t-46t and 34t cassette I'm nowhere near your 40t 
>> range question though.
>>
>> I have used a 34t 8-spd cassette with XC-Pro long cage on my Rambouillet 
>> without difficulty butI had the TA Zephyr crank configured as a triple 
>> 26t-36t-46t, then later went wide double 34t-44t. The B-adjustment and 
>> chain length will help as will your commitment not to use big-big 
>> combination. 
>>
>> Your chainring count and sizes additionally affect this. Makers were 
>> (still are) utterly dictatorial in the gearing combination specs so their 
>> indexing works at peak design potential. I can cope with microseconds 
>> slower response in shifting in exchange for gearing that better suits my 
>> riding needs and haven't had a problem.
>>
>> I added an extension tab when I wanted to run another derailleur on my 
>> Rambouillet that had 28t max and truly wouldn't clear the 34t cog. It's a 
>> friction shift drivetrain so, again, I got gearing I wanted using the 
>> french Mavic derailleur I wanted so I was OK if some shifting wasn't spec 
>> sheet precise. 
>>
>> Andy. Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Tuesday, April 8, 2025 at 7:01:54 PM UTC-4 [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'd like to do something a little different on a Susie build I am 
>>> working on and am considering going with a Suntour XC Pro rear derailleur. 
>>> Specifically, it's the XP00-GXB model, which is the long cage version. I'd 
>>> be running this with Silver friction shifters and a Shimano 9 speed 
>>> cassette. I'm curious what the biggest rear cog I can use is? This resource 
>>> claims it kinda depends on the length of the hanger:
>>>
>>> https://www.disraeligears.co.uk/site/suntour_xc_pro_gx_derailleur_xp00-gxb.html
>>>
>>> How does one measure the length of the derailleur hanger? From the 
>>> center of the dropout to the center of the derailleur hanger hole?
>>>
>>> Any real use experience running an XC Pro derailleur with a 34t cog in 
>>> the rear?
>>>
>>> Also, stated capacity above is 40t - anyone out there pushing that? 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> -k.   
>>>
>>

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