Am I right in saying that, for a friction-shifted bike, it doesn't matter? 
As long as the derailleur has the capacity you're after, it should be good 
to go? If your chain hits the stays over bumps, just wrap it :P

On Saturday, 5 April 2025 at 01:18:23 UTC+10:30 [email protected] 
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