Re: [RBW] Re: Why bicycle racing is completely irrelevant

[Richard Rose]

I would kill for a Gus that was 10 lbs. (15?) less than mine. It would be the perfect bike - as long as none of it’s other qualities were compromised.:) Sent from my iPhone On Apr 2, 2025, at 11:01 AM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:  I’ve never ridden CF, tho’ someone once very kindly gave me a Calfee Ruby frameset — the tt was too long by a cm and I gave it to my taller brother. I should rent a cf road bike or whatever niche subcategory best fits my aging body and give the genre a try.  My 1999 Riv Road custom fixed gear weighs 18 lb ready to ride but I recall once hefting a Parlee fixed conversion that must have weighed no more than 12 lb even with cheap rat trap pedals. As to breakage, I believe that there is a huge difference between the liabilities of CF in itself and the very different liabilities of CF used in grossly insufficient amounts to achieve weight claims for marketing purposes.  Lastly, I for one would love to see photos of Riv-inspired or Riv-adjacent CF bikes, if the listmeister approves. On Wed, Apr 2, 2025 at 8:11 AM Chris Fly <fourf...@gmail.com> wrote: … Carbon bikes aren’t the devil, they are fine.. I don't own any currently, but almost certainly will in the future as they are great bikes that can be shaped in ways that steel never can.. can they break? sure.. can they almost always be repaired? absolutely! and usually not for any more money than it would cost to replace a tube on a steel bike, possibly less..  On Tuesday, April 1, 2025 at 9:28:14 AM UTC-7 shannon....@gmail.com wrote: … And as to “carbon is unsafe," it's simply not true, as shown by the number of bonded carbon Treks that are still ridden regularly three decades after they were made. And that includes the mountain bikes, which presumably got ridden hard and crashed a lot... that's what happens to mountain bikes. I've rarely seen any carbon frame break in a crash that wouldn't have broken a metal bike, and the rider would have been equally screwed either way. I don't ride carbon bikes because I don't care for the way they feel, not because I think that they're unsafe. They're not, and I don't. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CALuTfgviMB9TDN0f7uHx7T61K5Et7stE5sP4n0Hk1mX2BKvHzg%40mail.gmail.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/72ED59C1-FDFC-418E-8A16-CE9FFF45920D%40gmail.com.