That's super helpful for future reference, Bill. I'm looking to make the switch to the Kool Stop Cross Pads as you suggested, but retailers definitely seem few and far between. I did send Kool Stop an email to see if I can buy direct from them as well.
-k. On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 5:20 PM Bill Lindsay <tapebu...@gmail.com> wrote: > "The Kool-Stop V-Type/V-Type 2(thicker pad) or Yokozuna Gen-X Salmon > should fit those inserts as that M70/R pad was used in both canti and vee > brakes from Shimano" > > That's simple not the case. The Shimano Deore XT cantilever holder and > pad that the OP presented a photo of is an entirely different animal from a > Shimano Deore XT V-brake holder and pad. There are at least four critical > differences > > 1. The Cantilever pad is retained in its holder via a setscrew that fits > into a round hole. The V-type pads are retained by a clip that slides > through a thin slot. > 2. The Cantilever pad has a narrower and deeper dovetail wedge engaging > with the holder than the V-type pad does > 3. The Cantilever pad is substantially thicker than the V-type pads which > are quite thin > 4. The Cantilever pad is wedge shaped, and the holder itself is not > perpendicular to the post. Running a V-type pad in that tilted holder > would make it really wonky to try to get the pad to hit the rim squarely > > I took several photos of an Deore XT cantilever holder/pad and Deore XT > V-brake holder and pad. > > Photo 1 > <https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/54376460130/in/photostream/> > Photo 2 > <https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/54376303773/in/photostream/> > Photo 3 > <https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/54376067106/in/photostream/> > Photo 4 > <https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/54376460055/in/photostream/> > Photo 5 > <https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/54376459960/in/photostream/> > > They are significantly different from one another. The smooth post Eagle > Claw is an excellent choice as a replacement. For new inserts on those > holders your only choice, as far as I can tell is to find NOS copies of the > original, but there's no changing compounds with the original holders. Let > me know if you want some of the originals. I always swap out those holders > and I probably have 10 or 12 brakes worth. In my opinion the original > stock pads are way too chunky especially with rims that have a short > braking surface. > > Bill Lindsay > El Cerrito, CA > > On Saturday, March 8, 2025 at 1:29:30 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote: > >> The Kool-Stop V-Type/V-Type 2(thicker pad) or Yokozuna Gen-X Salmon >> should fit those inserts as that M70/R pad was used in both canti and vee >> brakes from Shimano. You can get the KS inserts in a triple compound if you >> like. >> >> Myself, I just get the Eagle Claw 2 smooth post pads and chop off and >> file the ends @the last grove so the pads clear the stays. >> >> On Friday, March 7, 2025 at 7:47:06 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >>> Yes! Toss those and get a set of KoolStop Cross Pads, in the smooth >>> post configuration. Then you are in with the Dura2 style insert which you >>> can get in any compound. >>> https://koolstop.com/products/cross-pad-cantilever. >>> >>> Unfortunately QBP doesn't carry them anymore, so lots and lots of online >>> vendors and bicycle shops don't carry them and will tell you they can't >>> order them, but other wholesalers do. Most importantly KoolStop still >>> makes them. I told KoolStop I wanted 10 sets (5 bikes worth) and they sold >>> them to me direct. They charged me full retail but gave me a free T-shirt, >>> keychain and a couple stickers. >>> >>> Bill Lindsay >>> El Cerrito, CA >>> On Friday, March 7, 2025 at 4:00:20 PM UTC-8 Kirke Campbell wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I've got a set of old Shimano XT cantilever brakes - smooth posts, not >>>> threaded. I'm looking for salmon pad inserts that will work with this >>>> Shimano style brake pad that has the set screw. Pad inserts seem to be >>>> about 70mm long. Any ideas? >>>> >>>> Pic here: >>>> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FyjJlM2xpCHffJ6Ox7dM2TmbBqSKPQvL/view?usp=sharing >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> -k. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Tyq9HQZLYIs/unsubscribe > . > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7145281c-4e63-4523-8d97-97054282c160n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/7145281c-4e63-4523-8d97-97054282c160n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/CACnrW9-f8-B3hkNLMeYweiLt40VvRPwWMRLhogVUrRjrNZ5ScA%40mail.gmail.com.
