I have a different take on the setup in the first picture. That looks more like a dirt drop than a drop bar setup and those are 2 very different things. Dirt drops have the drops as primary position and function not so different from a normal sweep back bar except that you get to hook into it. The tops on that setup look unusable as they should when a dirt drop is setup properly.
Just my take, but I could rail singletrack with a setup like that for hours, whereas traditional drop setups and mountain biking would have my wrists screaming in minutes. -Justus Mpls, MN On Sunday, February 9, 2025 at 4:18:43 PM UTC-6 brok...@gmail.com wrote: > See... not 100% poppycock. > > The Rivendell pyramid of drop bar bikes to upright / sweptback bar bikes > has definitely inverted in the past 30 years. > > Brian > Lex KY > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2025 at 4:08 PM esoterica etc <esoter...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Jay, >> >> Thanks for the compliment on the Atlantis, but I'm afraid you might be >> disappointed with your visit to Hawaii- I sold the Atlantis a while back to >> a nice fella in California. But you're more than welcome to try out my 90's >> Specialized Crossroads, my Ritchey Breakaway Cross, or my wife's Clem H. >> >> And Bill is correct- mine was the 2018 v2 56cm 650b Atlantis. Like Bill, >> I also owned a v1 58cm 700c Atlantis and agree that they're quite different >> animals. >> >> Looking at geometry charts, my 56cm Atlantis had a 59cm effective top >> tube. The current 55cm 2025 Atlantis has an effective top tube of 61cm, so >> it's much more predisposed for running upright handlebars. >> >> ~Mark >> Kailua, HI >> >> >> On Feb 8, 2025, at 3:11 PM, Jay <jason....@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Past week or so I have been dreaming of a new Riv, like the Appaloosa or >> upcoming Atlantis, with drop bars. Then I see the newsletter yesterday, >> and this thread today lol. Will's bike didn't look very good, but Mark's >> Atlantis above looks perfect to me. The proportions look really good. If >> I went with an Atlantis with drop bars I would likely go down two sizes. >> The top tube is so long! I'm 5'11 and can't recall my PBH but when I sized >> my Roadini it was highly recommended I choose the 57, which I did, and >> while all is good and I love the bike, I have the Brooks C17 pushed all the >> way forward on a 0 offset seat post, a 70mm stem -17D, as low as the quill >> adaptor can go, and short reach bars. I could have easily went down a size >> and had more space to move things around. So, with an Atlantis, would make >> sense to go down a couple of sizes if using drop bars. I don't think I'll >> pull the trigger though. If I could visit Mark in Hawaii and test out his >> Atlantis, well that could change my mind! >> >> On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 5:25:55 PM UTC-5 captaincon...@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> I have a hunqapillar with a discord/analog fingerling stem and ritchey >>> Corralitos short and shallow drop bar, and it's my favorite iteration of >>> cockpits on this bike. I feel the Corralitos are a total dark horse and >>> should be in the conversation for Riv cockpits. I love riv, but I'm more >>> comfortable on drops, and I have never liked the single hand position found >>> on most upright or alt bars. >>> >>> On Saturday, February 8, 2025 at 2:03:18 AM UTC-6 esoterica etc wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Since the MIT Atlantis was lumped together with the list of models that >>>> are simply non-conducive to drop bars, I call poppycock. >>>> >>>> My 650b MIT Atlantis was wonderful with Nitto Noodle bars. It came to >>>> me originally with Choco bars which were also wonderful, but at the time I >>>> already had another bike with a similar bar and no other geared bike with >>>> drop bars in my stable. So I put the Noodles on just out of curiosity >>>> thinking that it probably wouldn't stay on for long, but I ended up liking >>>> it better than the Chocos and kept it on until I ultimately sold the >>>> Atlantis. >>>> >>>> You'll never know until you try, and I encourage y'all to experiment >>>> with your bikes just like Will is doing. 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