I also took a look at the geometry differences between all of the Big 
Hillibikes and figured I would post them here in case it's helpful for 
anyone else; basically, there's not nearly as much difference between a big 
Clem and a big Gus as I would have imagined:

[image: hilligeo.jpg]

For those who understand such things....does the 10mm difference in BB Drop 
equate to a 10mm difference in Pedal Clearance assuming the same tire is 
used? If so, how meaningful is an extra half inch really going to be? And 
would using a 10mm shorter/longer crank yield the same result?

On Wednesday, February 5, 2025 at 11:52:53 PM UTC-5 Nick Shoemaker wrote:

> Hi Kyle!
>
> I agree wholeheartedly with Richard: your criteria just screams GUS to me, 
> and that's coming from a mud-slinging east-coast Clem rider. My Clem has 
> become my full-time MTB, and I have also experienced everything Richard 
> mentioned (pedal strikes are an every-ride occurrence for as long as I put 
> off changing out my 175mm cranks, and I do feel some flex when loaded). 
> That said, they are not deal-breakers and are honestly part of what I love 
> about riding my Clem on trails - it's a back to basics style that makes 
> 'easy' trails that much more fun and challenging. The (sumptuous) wheelbase 
> has been less of an issue than I anticipated, but we don't have a *ton* of 
> super-tight switchbacks here; I pretty much make the same ones that I used 
> to make, and step off on the ones I used to step off on....
>
> But.......if I were buying a Riv for 80% MTB and weighed more than my 
> current 160lbs, I'm pretty sure I would be looking for a 59cm Gus. The good 
> news is that you'll probably have fun either way - keep us posted on what 
> you decide!
>
>
> [image: IMG_2887.jpeg]
>
>
> Nick
> Knoxville
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 4, 2025 at 7:40:49 PM UTC-5 Richard Rose wrote:
>
>
>

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