I’ve found Brooks saddles uncomfortable (B17, B17N, Pro, Flyer, leaving
aside a 72 which was fine on a Raleigh Sport) and use first edition Flites,
but my experience is that with the right saddle properly set up one should
not need any special pants for rides up to ~35 miles (tho’ most of my
riding is on fixed gears, single speed or multispeed), for which I
comfortably wear baggy, light nylon boxers under touring shorts or long
cycling pants as long as these have no protruding crotch seams. I do have
2-3 pairs of old wool shorts with real chamois for longer rides that never
happen, but I learned 20+ years ago that I hate thick diaper padding. Jan
Heine said years ago that crotch “padding” in cycling shorts was really
meant to prevent chafing, not to pad an uncomfortable saddle. I don’t know
if this is true for long rides; perhaps others will speak up.


On Wed, Jan 22, 2025 at 6:43 PM Nick A. <thetaperoomstu...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm a B17 person. No pads or anything, usually 20-60 miles (during the
> kinder parts of the year).
>
> Nick A.
> Falls Church VA
>
> On Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 7:56:50 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 6:26:32 PM UTC-5 Jay wrote:
>>
>> I was curious to get some views from those with leather saddles and
>> whether you wear bib (padded) cycling shorts, underwear with shorts/pants.
>>
>>
>> My leather saddle is a Berthoud Aravis. Most frequently I use lycra
>> biking shorts with as minimal a pad as possible. I've removed the padding
>> from some shorts, leaving the "wicking layer" in place. My current favorite
>> is the Aerotech Designs Motion shorts, which use their thinnest pad. I also
>> ride with wool boxer briefs and knickers. If I ride with cotton underwear
>> it's almost a certainty I'll get a saddle sore.
>>
>> As Lael Wilcox said, I've worked hard to find a saddle I like, the last
>> thing I want is a big pad between it and my bottom.
>>
>> Ted Durant
>> Milwaukee, WI USA
>>
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