Charlie horse LOL. That made me laugh.

I caught the bug, too, but my candidate is an 87 Cannondale ST600 with some 
pretense at light weight. Large frame, not much lighter than yours. If I go 
through with it, I'll show some pics and some numbers. It's the dead of 
winter here in mid-Michigan. I'm riding a 93 Rockhopper with studded tires 
and and a three-speed IGH.

Are the modern Homers still this light? Compared with the numbers reported 
by Ted D on his small-size Sam, which is supposed to be only marginally 
more stout, that's quite the gap. Horses for courses, but I like me a 
lightweight somewhat springy bike for countryside rides with minimal loads.

Regarding the wheels: I have a low-spoke-count wheelset that's about 15 
years old and came off a Trek roadie. Aluminum, not carbon, and since rim 
brakes are out of fashion, you should be able to pick up a set cheap on FB 
or Craigslist. That's your best weight reduction right there. I've been 
riding these Bontrager rims/bladed spokes/SRAM Red hubs without maintenance 
or truing for maybe 4000 trouble-free miles. Great value if you can stand 
the look, and I don't really worry about it.  Conti GP 5000s in 32 mm weigh 
just under 300 g each. Great tires, roll well, I've had one flat that may 
have been the tube's fault.

cheers -m
On Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 6:48:40 PM UTC-5 Eric Karnes wrote:

> I too have a 63cm Waterford Hilsen and was very surprised when it first 
> arrived by how light it felt. Super interested to see how this progresses...
>
> Eric
>
> On Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 3:50:00 PM UTC-5 Davidbea wrote:
>
>> I'm running some BDOP cassettes. I have some 10 speeds but currently they 
>> only have 11 and 12 with the 11 speeds weighing 185g. 
>> https://bdopcycling.com/product/bdop-steel-cassette-shimano-sram-11spd-11-28t/
>>  
>>
>> On Sunday, January 12, 2025 at 6:50:42 AM UTC-5 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> That is very useful info, cheers. It seems like I am getting very good 
>>> weight value out of my cheap, 9 speed 11-28 HG-400 at 260g?
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 12 January 2025 at 19:00:44 UTC+8 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>
>>>> For a light cassette, steel monoblock cassettes save weight, as they're 
>>>> mostly empty space. I just weighed an Edco 11-34 cassette I have, and it's 
>>>> 197g, which compares with 345g for the same size Ultegra cassette. The 
>>>> same 
>>>> size Dura-Ace comes in at 250g, but it manages that by using titanium for 
>>>> the large cogs, and they wear more rapidly than steel.
>>>> [image: Dubied-monoblock-cassette-11spd_bottom[1].jpg]
>>>> Nick Payne
>>>>
>>>

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