I’m getting 76 inches on my Platypus with GravelKing SK 2.1’s. 

Mike

On Dec 11, 2024, at 4:47 PM, Roberta <rchas...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Platy is more than 70 inches wide, tire to tire. I don’t remember the exact measurements, but I can measure when I get home late tonight.  Leah, Bicycle, bell ding ding, has owned both Bikes and might have a unique take comparing the right quality. They are both nice riding bikes, but different.

I think as long as you have the opportunity to try both bikes the three of us should get together and you can try both bikes back to back. You might like the one ride much better than the other or you might say you like both of them and either Bike would make me very happy.  They do ride quite differently.  The good news is they both ride nicely and I don’t think either Bike would be a bad option.

 I think getting either one up and down from the basement won’t be really fun and I recommend Ginz’s recommendation of keeping one in the living room. 

Roberta

On Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 12:32:02 PM UTC-5 Jamie D. wrote:
Thanks for the continued and inspiring feedback everyone!

Roberta, that is so nice of you to offer, I will likely take you up on this at some point.

The metaphorical wheels are turning and now I'm considering a Platy... 

According to Bike Insights, the "Bike Length with Tires" for the 52 Clem is 77.35 inches and the 59 Clem is 81 inches.

Unfortunately Bike insights does not have this info for the Platy. 

Does anyone know the "Bike Length with Tires" (which I assume is the longest measurement from the outside edge of the front and back tire) for a 55 Platy?

On Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 10:59:30 AM UTC-5 DavidP wrote:
Antone - The amount of dedication and will power needed to go through with making a nice bike look bad as a theft deterrent will never cease to impress me.

Ride on!
-Dave (out in the 'burbs near Boston)

On Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 9:35:33 AM UTC-5 lambbo wrote:
Hi Jamie, 

I'm in Brooklyn, and have a Cheviot which I keep locked up outside on a street sign (8 years now).   New locks, including for your seat, wheels, stem, and any bolt you feel like locking, really are a game changer...I also have intentionally destroyed the aesthetic of my cheviot using paint stripper, brown paint, bits of other colors, and scratches on my seat, to deter thieves.    It looks like a huge, old, rusty women's bike to most thieves, not really a market for that.  

I can't say it will always work, but is has so far, and the amount of hassle I've avoided getting my bike in and out of my apartment over the years has kept me commuting on a wonderful bike.  If someone stole my bike tomorrow, I think the cost benefit would still be in my favor (it's also a used bike with used dynamo used everything for that reason, but still rides like a dream). 

The paint stripper and brown matte paint are probably the best deterrent, but the locks I use are Abus Bordo and a lot of hex locks on everything. 

Hope that's helpful,
Antone
On Wednesday, December 11, 2024 at 4:01:03 AM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:
Hi Jamie. 

Try Ben’s Clem. ( ben—I thinkknow you— you have an adorable child and a green Clem that you share with your wife?) The Clem is very long but I bet you love the ride. If you also want to try 55 Platy you’re welcome to try mine for testing.  It will be less long and lighter than the Clem.    I’m in center city i’ve had similar issues getting my bike in and out of the house. 

Roberta

On Monday, December 9, 2024 at 1:15:39 PM UTC-5 Jamie D. wrote:
Hi Everyone!

Sorry for this long first post, I hope you can help me navigate stepping into the Rivendell universe in a rational way.

I'm just getting back into cycling again after a long absence. Previously I lead a no-car-multi-bike lifestyle for over a decade.

I'm drawn towards the Clem Smith Jr. – the accounts I've read here range from something like riding Falcor through time and space to an existential crisis from owning 'The Cadillac of Bicycles'.

My main mode of transportation was previously a Bilenky cargo bike. I loved/miss the upright posture and extra long wheelbase hence my interest in the Clem.

I live in a small Philly row house with some challenges (I did not have the Bilenky at this house):

  • To get into my house I have to get the bike up 4 stairs and in my front door which opens into a wall. I have to zig-zag bikes around this short wall to get them into the house.

  • I store all my bicycles in my basement which is a 90 degree turn from the basement door to the relatively steep stairwell. To get bikes down the stairwell, I prop them up vertically on the rear wheel and walk them down the stairs in front on me holding the handlebars and strategically using the rear break.

  • To get them out of the basement, I have a ramp that locks into the stairs. I shimmy the bike onto the ramp, put my left hand on the seat post, my right hand on the right handlebar grip and push the bike in front of me up the stairs and turn the bars at the precise moment navigate the 90 degree turn out of the basement door.

My PBH is 85cm and saddle height 74cm so I could fit a 52 Clem but it sounds like a 59 Clem would be more ideal.

There's a chance I would not have to take the front wheel off of the 52 to get the bike down the basement but it would likely require be turning the bars slightly which could be more sketchy.

I would definitely have to take the front wheel off the 59 to get the bike down the basement. I might even have to take it off to get in the front door.

What would you do if you were in my shoes? Is the Clem worth the hassle? Is sizing up to the 59 worth the extra hassle? Am I nuts for considering the Clem in general?

Thanks for any insight you many have!

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