Tim,

I feel compelled to reply since the jack the bike rack is one of my 
favorite bike accessories that I've ever purchased, and its the only thing 
that I have bought through crowdfunding.  I hate having racks permanently 
attached to my bikes--I have wasted too much time installing them to 
ultimately remove them then have them sit and then market, pack, and ship 
them.  The jack the bike rack works exactly as advertised, and it is easy 
on/easy off.  It literally takes moments, and has absolutely no play--I 
will prove too.  I had it setup with a wald 137 and analog/fifth season 
squall sack and/or cargo net, but I recently bought an outer shell 137 
basket bag because I wanted a rando closure for the access.  As much as I 
like roll top bags like the squall sack, I prefer them for long-term 
storage, not day-to-day use.  Also, I have used this rack on wide drop bars 
and with v brakes.  I'm not sure where the interjection regarding 
canti/center pulls came from, but I bet that they would work just fine with 
this rack.  I can only speculate, but I think you could use the largest of 
handlebar bags, and this rack would be a fine support for them.  I think 
the peck deck/rod steward is the worst compromise between a mechanically 
secure rack and the jack the bike rack.

I do have an extra jack the bike rack, black 137, and squall sack that was 
underutilized on my wife's bike that I'm passively selling if you want to 
buy it.  I personally don't need two with how easy it is to swap between 
bikes.
On Saturday, December 7, 2024 at 11:46:45 AM UTC-6 velomann wrote:

> Wow.
> My experience with the Jack Rack is the polar opposite of the criticisms 
> here. I got in on the Kickstarter 2-for-1 after favorable preview reviews 
> from Path Less Pedaled and Terry Berentson, and I love the two racks I have 
> so much that I purchased a third.
>
> But my uses are specific and whether you like the rack will probably 
> depend on what you're carrying and what your other options are. One of my 
> racks is mounted on my beater 1990 Diamondback Apex MTB. This is my 
> commuter, lock up outside the schools where I sub, all purpose bike, and 
> the bag I usually carry is a prototype North St large-ish Carradice-style  
> saddlebag with a shoulder strap, Easy to bungee down on the rack, easy to 
> remove. The other bike with a Jack Rack is my fixie, and I find the rack 
> absolutely perfect for strapping down a messenger bag or the North St. bag 
> or whatever and carrying whatever s*** I want when I'm riding fixed. 
>
> I have almost no sway with the racks, and I'm just guessing but I figure I 
> regularly exceed the weight capacity and so far it has been a complete 
> non-issue.
>
> I should also say that I have a real aversion to front racks that attach 
> to the fork dropouts, as well as using P-clamps to mount anything on the 
> fork, mostly for aesthetic reasons, but also because it's another strut to 
> get in the way of stuff. I do have Several bikes with various Nitto front 
> racks (M12, M18, 32F) and love those as well, but comparison with the Jack 
> Rack is apples & oranges for me - it works great for the applications I use 
> it for. 
>
> Also, I have not (yet) mounted a Wald 137 to a Jack Rack, but I know 
> people who have and it seems to be a great use of the rack.
>
> Mike M
>
> On Friday, December 6, 2024 at 2:25:27 PM UTC-8 Tim Whitfeld wrote:
>
>> Does anyone in the group have experience with Jack the Bike Rack? It's 
>> appealing to easily switch a rack like this between bikes but only if it 
>> works as advertised! 
>>
>> Is a handlebar rack even necessary to support a handlebar bag (e.g., 
>> Zeitgeist from Swift Industries or Goldback/Piccolo from BagsxBird)? Does 
>> an unsupported bag flop around or scuff the headtube? I've only ever used a 
>> pannier but like the idea of a more easily accessible handlebar bag. This 
>> would be for a Sam Hillborne. Thanks, Tim
>>
>

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