Well...I stand corrected then...should have read Glen's post before I 
opened my big mouth :) Wonder where the detail came from though, because do 
I have the W on my AR and it was definitely Waterford-built

Anyway I do like the older Atlantis and those curved chainstays are swoopy

On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 8:43:24 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:

> I'll just add that according to a 2002 review of the Atlantis which was 
> Toyo made, a big deal was made about the custom bent chainstays by Touhoko, 
> the Japanese tubing vendor who seemed to have a hand in the frame. 
>
> The 2002 review was by John Shubert of Adventure Cyclist.
>
> And, those curvy chainstays are da' bomb!
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 5:37:29 PM UTC-8 jde...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’m not sure who came up with the seat stay cap  W being associated with 
>> Waterford but it is definitely not true. My Atlantis 2 is a Toyo and has 
>> the seatstay cap W.
>>
>> -Justin
>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 2:21:20 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:
>>
>>> I'm reasonably sure that W where the seatstay joins the lug is a 
>>> Waterford signature. I have the same style on my 97 AR which Waterford-built
>>>
>>> Nice bike; no wonder it went so quickly
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 3:15:25 PM UTC-6 Danny wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great bike and congrats on the sale! Those curved chainstays look like 
>>>> a Toyo-built from what I’ve read about them.
>>>>
>>>> Any chance you would share the serial number? Might help in future ID 
>>>> of a Toyo vs Waterford.
>>>>
>>>> -Danny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 2:01 PM MisterMo <reyno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Everyone, this is now SOLD.  Love this place!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, December 4, 2024 at 11:46:52 AM UTC-5 
>>>>> andrew.s...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In my studies determining if mine is a toyo v a waterford, i recall 
>>>>>> waterford being written on the dropouts being a solid clue. It’s my 
>>>>>> favorite bike of all time.
>>>>>> Randy in portland. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2024 at 5:23:19 PM UTC-8 Brian Turner wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My Toyo (previously assumed to be a Waterford) has mid-fork eyelets 
>>>>>>> and a kickstand plate, but a Toyo serial number. I think learning how 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> differentiate between the serial codes on the BB is really the only way 
>>>>>>> to 
>>>>>>> know. 
>>>>>>>
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