It's all about the lungs at some point. Strong thighs help but you need to lung capacity to truly mash for long stretches of road. Dolphin thighs would be fun to see! Ha Doug
On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 6:58:35 AM UTC-5 Ryan wrote: > and not to throw shade on Bill or Patrick...the reason I came up with > dolphin-like lungs was this: > > In one of the early Readers, I remember shortly after the Ramboullet was > introduced , someone (Henry Kingsman, I think his name was) used the Ram on > a multi-day hilly tour carrying ~20 lbs of gear, camping, I think and Grant > characterised him as having dolphin-like lungs. As I recall, Kingsman had > high praise for the bike > > > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Dolphin_Anatomy.svg/600px-Dolphin_Anatomy.svg.png > > > Yup...large lungs > > On Tuesday, November 26, 2024 at 5:37:21 AM UTC-6 Ryan wrote: > >> I didn't know dolphins had thighs :) I thought it was "dolphin-like lungs" >> >> On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 9:11:21 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote: >> >>> "I’d forgotten about that happy metaphor until Bill brought it up" >>> >>> Type "Dolphin" into the search bar for the web-page view of either >>> RBWGroup or I-Bob and you'll see the metaphor repeated ~10x by Patrick >>> Moore. I guess I pay too much attention to what I read... >>> >>> BL in EC >>> >>> On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 2:41:24 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote: >>> >>>> I am a masher, tho’ my thighs are hardly dolphin-like (and I’d >>>> forgotten about that happy metaphor until Bill brought it up). In fact, I >>>> rather dislike fast spinning because I run out of breath, which is very >>>> strange because 30+ years ago my normal flatland cruising gear was 64” - >>>> 65” (I recall the drivetrains and wheels and tires) and I could maintain >>>> 20-23 on long flat calm sections — not boasting, just telling. I’m not >>>> sure >>>> if switching to fixed gears for most of my riding made me a masher or if >>>> it >>>> was a radical repositioning in the bike thanks to Grant, from saddle all >>>> the way forward to saddle all the way back; I expect it was principally >>>> the >>>> latter and partly the former. >>>> >>>> Patrick “low and slow” in ABQ, NM >>>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 10:12 AM Bill Lindsay <tape...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Patrick Moore will no doubt include a reference to his oft-repeated >>>>> quote of Grant in reference to his "dolphin like thighs". >>>>> >>>>> The more direct take home is that Patrick Moore is a self-identified >>>>> masher. He often claims his epic 10 mile grocery runs are completed at >>>>> ~14mph, and to ride ~14mph on a 72-inch gear, one pedals at 65RPM. I've >>>>> gathered while "spinners" tend to be comfortable in the 85-110RPM range, >>>>> mashers like Patrick Moore are perfectly happy to grunt at 30RPM and >>>>> cruise >>>>> at 65RPM. >>>>> >>>>> Bill Lindsay >>>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>>> On Monday, November 25, 2024 at 6:57:14 AM UTC-8 isp...@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think what you're saying here is that your quads are a lot bigger >>>>>> than mine. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sunday, November 24, 2024 at 7:52:11 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> 42/19 = 2.21 X 26.6 (per JimG; the numbers from that site pretty >>>>>> closely match my empirical measurements) = 58.8 gear inches. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’m familiar enough with my own drivetrains to know how a 175 mm >>>>>> crank compares to a 170 with the same ring/cog X wheel diameter; the >>>>>> empirical upshot is a bit less than 1 tooth less for the longer crank; >>>>>> ie, >>>>>> the 48/17X25.6" 72” gear with 170 mm cranks on my Matthews errand road >>>>>> bike >>>>>> would be the more-or-less equivalent of a 48/16.5X26.5” gear with 175 mm >>>>>> cranks. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> >>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8e7a0063-1331-493f-9cb7-e26a57a3cb71n%40googlegroups.com >>>>> >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/8e7a0063-1331-493f-9cb7-e26a57a3cb71n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Patrick Moore >>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >>>> services >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>>> >>>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>>> >>>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>>> >>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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