I have  a pair of pants from a mountaineering and climbing company, Mamut, 
that are just black and a jean, 5-pocket, cut I got years ago. I too peg 
the legs not from the Flock of Seagulls days but my coinciding military 
ones. It kept unnecessary noise from bloused pant legs brushing against 
each other when you walked in the woods attempting to be quiet. I use two 
1.5" velcro leg straps with a reflective band to hold my peg folding and 
keep cuff from the chain and wind out of my pant legs.

The pants are of a fabric from Schoeller,, what we now refer to as "soft 
shell". A Google search of "soft shell pants" will cast a nice catch of 
shopping options. Mine were rare birds on an REI sale rack , both for being 
in my size and for the value of the fabric. I don't think I could've found 
the yardage of raw cloth for what I paid for the pants at the time. They 
turn spray, wind, have give and look refreshingly normal. 

re: your Iron Rangers. A nice trick to set lace tension around your foot 
with the vamp of taller laced footwear is when you first put on the boot 
press your foot back into the heel cup against the floor and pull the 
eyeletted laces snugly as you desire but before you start with the hooks, 
tie an overhand knot. That will isolate two areas of lace tension within 
the full pattern of your Red Wings. I have the same ones. My boots in the 
service were my office (dining room and sometimes bedroom) and I chose a 
pair of uniform-listed custom Danners in which I learned many tricks to 
keeping comfortable, warm, (or cool), and intact.  

I have but one distant observation for on the bike style: dark colors and 
lower color values shoes blend in more simply, colors and higher color 
values stand out and make feet look bigger. It's an ensemble effect. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Thursday, November 14, 2024 at 1:49:14 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I took the ToPo Designs Dirt Drop pant suggestion and am wearing the pants 
> today. I sized down as they are roomy, and I STILL have room in them. I’m 
> tired of the leggings look for riding; real pants *please, *and these 
> are. I have totally unrestricted movement in these. I think they are going 
> to be great, but we’ll see after I get some miles in.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>  I love the tie at the waist; it’s a fun, contrasting color. Not pictured: 
> the ivory, quilted down vest I wore for warmth, because it covered up the 
> pants!
>
> [image: image2.jpeg]
> And here are the pant cuffs - they cinch with a tie! This likely works 
> better than the ankle straps I have that keep sliding off my pant legs. 
>
> And peeking out are my Smartwool socks in a Christmas-y pattern. Anything 
> Christmas is street-legal on Nov 1, you know. I paired them with Red Wing 
> Iron Rangers, because I have Minnesota blood running through these veins. 
> The toes are scuffed from my pedal pins but I stopped caring about that 
> long ago. 
>
> Lastly, I’m highlighting my J Crew headband in a Christmas tartan because 
> it’s the best part. 
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> It started raining before I could even get out on the bike. Serves me 
> right for being a priss. Will go out later! 
> Leah
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 14, 2024, at 12:22 PM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Who was it who recommended the Dirt Drop pants?
>
> On Oct 24, 2024, at 7:51 AM, Richard Rose <rmro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Good Morning Leah. I just got a pair of OrNot Mission Pants. They are 
> fantastic. Really nice fabric & features. High quality garment made from 
> recycled material & made in USA. The latter is not a huge thing for me but 
> I do appreciate it. I was set to wear them on our ride but changed at the 
> last second in the parking lot as it was warming up fast. If I were still 
> working/commuting I would have several pair as I would never need to change 
> clothes on arrival. OrNot is a very interesting company. I also use their 
> merino boxers which are the best I’ve found. These have replaced my padded 
> bike liners.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 23, 2024, at 10:37 AM, Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Ted, you have motivated me to finally put some pants in the shopping cart. 
> I am tired of leggings. They aren’t pants. But if you don’t want seams 
> biting into you while riding, they make sense. But I’d rather have more 
> appropriate clothing for when I’m biking to a business and not just heading 
> to do a workout. I looked online and found 3 different pants on REI and 
> will hopefully get to try them before the snow falls. Two of them are REI 
> house brand pants and the other is Topo Designs Dirt pants. The former are 
> nylon and the latter is cotton.
>
> We’ll see.
>
> If anyone else has great stylish but functional pant suggestions, I’m here 
> for them.
> Leah
>
> On Oct 22, 2024, at 11:53 PM, Keith Paugh <keith...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Ted, 👌.
>
> You're a shiny penny out on that bridge... someone's gonna toss you over 
> the side, you don't watch out.
>
> k.
>
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 7:49 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> All trikes are darling by their very nature, and 10X so when cornering. 
>> (Trikes are a bit of a chore to ride in a straight line because you’re 
>> carrying ~25% more weight and 30% more tire and wheel bearing drag, but 
>> man, cornering on a trike is something everyone should experience at least 
>> once in a lifetime! Wonderful! I owned 2.)
>>
>> More seriously, Natsuko is certainly stylish - and eminently sensible -- 
>> in her dress as well as her riding position.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2024 at 8:43 PM Leah Peterson <jonasa...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, this is a style thread! You can only post pictures in which 
>>> someone is looking darling!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Oct 22, 2024, at 10:38 PM, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> If you take “style” to include an “effortless" riding position, these 
>>> are my favorites. De Vlaemink, Jan’s friend Natsuko, and just because it’s 
>>> a trike and trike’s are always and everywhere stylish, and 10X so when 
>>> cornering, a trike from 50 years ago
>>>
>>> <image.png>
>>>
>>>
>>> <image.png>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> <image.png>
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