Double agree here. The Clem L pretty much has to be a noodle in that application.
1. I believe Joe, who has ridden lots of step throughs 2. Joe's qualitative observation is backed up by Rivendell's string top-tube video. 3. Two fundamental concepts of beam theory explain why it has to be that way. The math is super clear, but the punchline is that the low step through part of a Clem L makes the whole frame flexy right there. The long chainstays act like a cheater bar to make it super flexy. A cargo extension is just a longer cheater bar that has to make it even more flexy. That's true even if you NEVER CARRY ANY CARGO on that cargo extension. If you actually carry cargo, then even more flex. The Wikipedia pages on Beam Theory <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler%E2%80%93Bernoulli_beam_theory> and the simplified but super common-sense Shear and moment diagrams <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shear_and_moment_diagram> really help illustrate what's going on. Bill Lindsay El Cerrito, CA On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 3:30:44 PM UTC-8 Josh C wrote: > I agree with Joe, the Clem is likely to be a noodle. > > On Saturday, November 9, 2024 at 10:22:33 AM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote: > >> Chev. I've owned both and the Cheviot is notably stiffer, I expect a Clem >> L that stretched could get a bit noodly. >> >> On Friday, November 8, 2024 at 6:04:26 PM UTC-8 J Imler wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Got a cargo Riv build with Xtracycle Free Radical brewing. Which do you >>> prefer? >>> >>> Chev-wagon >>> [image: Chev in Antioch.jpeg] >>> or >>> >>> Clem longtail >>> [image: Clem cargo.png] >>> >>> Josh >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5798e405-e0ef-4688-b9d0-1d59734dfe77n%40googlegroups.com.
