Very nice Roaduno (from a fellow Boston-area Roaduno owner)! I have the 
SRAM version of that hub, currently on a 1950 Raleigh Lenton Tourist, and 
Bill's cautionaries do make sense. It's an interesting experiment.

I did a quick search for that S-A A2 hub, saw that it's discontinued, but 
came across this model that I didn't know about previously:

https://www.modernbike.com/sturmey-archer-cs-rk3-3-x-9-speed-disc-hub-32h-black

I could get downright Lindsay-esque with the possibilities that hub 
presents on a disc-brake compatible frame.

Neal Lerner
Brookline MA

On Friday, November 1, 2024 at 10:45:37 AM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Silver with Purple for the win.  Very nice.  I like the willingness to 
> experiment on the gearing front, but don't know how it'll work out on a 
> multi-chainring bike.  If the operating principal is the same as other 
> automatic shifting systems I've seen, then it's rotating weights inside the 
> hub.  When those weights spin fast enough they fly outwards and cause a 
> shift. The only thing that mechanism "knows" is how fast the rear whee is 
> spinning.  Let's say for the sake of argument that the rear hub shifts when 
> the rear wheel goes faster than 16mph.  I don't know what speed it really 
> is, but it illustrates my curiosity.  If you were in the 28x20 gear, at 
> 16mph you would be pedaling at roughly 75RPM and the shift would drop you 
> to 55RPM.  That sound pretty reasonable.  If you were in the 42x20 gear, at 
> 16mph, you would be pedaling at roughly 50RPM and the shift would drop you 
> to 37RPM.  That's super slow pedaling.  
>
> Given that, maybe the most practical way to use that drive train will be 
> to default to the small ring and only go to the big ring when you are 
> already cruising at speed, but shift down to the small ring pretty much any 
> time the hub shifts to "low", like at stops and such.  In practice, you may 
> rarely use the big ring with the hub in LOW.  I guess it all depends what 
> hub RPM the thing fires with your wheel set up.  
>
> Science!
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Wednesday, October 30, 2024 at 8:26:04 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:
>
>> I've completed the initial build of my 54.5cm Roaduno frame and taken it 
>> around the block. It's fully rideable but I'll be adding fenders, a 
>> rack/basket, lights, and bags. It's a 2x2 with a 2 speed IGH in the back. 
>> (Road-deux-by-deux-no?)
>>
>> [image: PXL_20241030_210447300_roaduno-initial-1600.jpg]
>>
>> A few more photos in the Flickr album: 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/ordinarylight/albums/72177720321621073/
>>
>> I've been hung up on trying an automatic 2 speed IGH (Sturmey A2) and the 
>> Roaduno made an excellent platform for it. This hub gives 1:1 and 1:1.38 
>> ratios and automatically shifts based on wheel speed. No messing with 
>> kickbacks but also no control over the shift. Pairing the IGH with double 
>> crank for a 2x2 setup gives some say in the matter (and a wider range).
>>
>> Current gearing (20t cog) gives 39" and 53" with the 28t ring and 58" and 
>> 80" with the 42t.
>>
>> I'll need more miles to be able to say much about how it works out, but 
>> am optimistic after my quick spin.
>>
>> Other build details:
>> Sun CR18 rims (36h rear, 32h front) with Sturmey A2 IGH and Kasai dyno hub
>> Resist Nomad 700x45 tires (measuring 41mm on these rims)
>> 20t Nexus cog with Shimano 600 tricolor RD (as a tensioner)
>> Shimano Nexave FD-T401 top swing / low clamp and Silver 1 DT shifter
>> New Albion Clipper (XD2) triple - 44t guard + Sugino 42/28 rings
>> MKS Sylvan Gordito pedals
>> Riv 182.55 saddle
>> Technomic 120mm stem with Choco bar
>> Tektro R559 brakes and FL540 levers
>>
>> -Dave
>> (near Boston)
>>
>

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