Pretty sure you are all saying the same thing differently. Bill's method is just fine I bet and is probably the same method as Shimano documents, but with a different baseline for what a link is, regardless of what is technically correct.
I checked the Shimano site and they show every rivet as a link count where I suspect both Bill and I have always considered a link to be a full plate with a leading loop perhaps (2-3 links in Shimano doc). The Shimano interpretation seems odd to me but what seems clear is the picture of their 5 links plus a quick-link looks like big/big+2 to me. Next time I pull a chain, I guess I will verify if 116L is # of plates or rivets...whatever... 2 full plates and an open loop for my quick-link is always where I start and if I can remove a plate later to optimize, great, if not I am probably about perfect already. I do also have 2 x 1x Hardtails and both were sized with what I define as big/big+2 per above and setup is about perfect. Just my thoughts. Hope that helps... -Justus Mpls, MN On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 2:18:06 PM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote: > Bill's method will not work for 1x. Shimano's specifications are big > sprocket and chainring + 5-6 links. > > On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 10:56:13 AM UTC-7 DavidP wrote: > >> Yes - bypass the rear derailleur when wrapping the cog. >> >> https://www.sheldonbrown.com/derailer-adjustment.html#chain >> https://www.parktool.com/en-us/blog/repair-help/chain-length-sizing >> >> -Dave >> >> On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 1:46:30 PM UTC-4 Ray Varella wrote: >> >>> Just to clarify my understanding and perhaps anyone else who isn’t 100% >>> clear, the Big/Big plus two links is done without the chain running through >>> the derailer, right? >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> On Friday, October 18, 2024 at 10:32:05 AM UTC-7 Mike Godwin wrote: >>> >>>> I second Bill's method, has worked for me on all bikes for decades. >>>> >>>> Mike SLO CA >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, October 16, 2024 at 11:22:28 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>>> >>>>> I always just use the St Sheldon method and use what I have to use, on >>>>> whatever the bike. big+big+2 links. >>>>> >>>>> Bill Lindsay >>>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, October 16, 2024 at 9:42:04 AM UTC-7 DavidP wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> My 60cm Platypus with 46t big ring and 34t big cog took 116+12 links. >>>>>> I used two 116 link chains and two quick links and kept the remnants of >>>>>> the >>>>>> second one for future use. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Dave >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, October 16, 2024 at 11:03:05 AM UTC-4 >>>>>> wesley.a...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> A big ring like that up front is going to require a long chain. With >>>>>>> 118 links, I've got just enough for a Homer running a 34/24 and >>>>>>> something >>>>>>> similar for the cassette. E-bike chains are a good shout for sure: >>>>>>> https://kmcchain.us/collections/e-bike-9-speed/products/e9 >>>>>>> On Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 9:50:48 AM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I’m have been using a KMC 10 speed e-bike chain. 136 links. I only >>>>>>>> removed 2 for my Clem with 34/24 rings and 11-42 cassette. As an extra >>>>>>>> bonus, they last forever! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Saturday, October 12, 2024 at 3:02:11 AM UTC-7 >>>>>>>> okeeffe...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>> I was wondering what your experience with chain length was. Since >>>>>>>>> RBW frames have pretty long chain stays, what length chain do you >>>>>>>>> tend to >>>>>>>>> run?. For information I'm using a 48-38 in front and 11-34 at the >>>>>>>>> back on a >>>>>>>>> '24 Sam. >>>>>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>>>>> Cormac >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/18183ffb-a16d-49e2-bfbb-fc47ae30e088n%40googlegroups.com.
