I think the vindication will come sooner than later.... y'all see that new moonlander rear end?
Brian On Monday, September 9, 2024 at 4:35:23 PM UTC-5 Jim M. wrote: > Well said! And other makers are doing it, a couple examples I know of are > the Jones LWB and the Esker Hayduke LSV, but I'm sure there are others. > > jim m > walnut creek > > > On Monday, September 9, 2024 at 1:48:26 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote: > > As many others mentioned above and the previous thread - for a particular > sort of riding the wheelbase increases stability, ride quality, and > traction immensely. When I first started tinkering with an upright fit I > found short wheelbase bikes to be too light in the front climbing and > leaning forward reduced traction. I've found since switching that the long > wheel base allows a degree of upright riding that still allows a somewhat > nimble ride, and increase confidence in traction going up and down steep > and loose sections of trail, and in general less chatter. I really like > the way I can lean into descents in loose terrain with confidence. It's > really a large improvement on the ATB (all terrain bike / hillibike) that > isn't time trial driven. > > For cons (again as mentioned) - most places aren't that bike friendly for > storage / locking in the first place. May as well be tandem. For really > technical riding popping the front up over obstacles (curbs / roots / small > trees) is much more unintuitive. However - I wouldn't exactly pick > Clementine for this sort of riding. I'd much more likely pop through the > step through while rolling, grab the down tube, pop over, and jump back on > CX style. > > I think Grant is absolutely opening up a conversation that we all too > often get sucked into racing based trends and rarely look outside the box. > I'll beat this poor dead horse - but definitely think that the larger > industry will pick up on longer wheelbase bikes for certain types of riding > and terrain - just maybe not Clem Smith Jr length. > > On Sunday, September 8, 2024 at 9:27:00 AM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote: > > One potential problem with long chainstays is trying to fit the bike in > spaces designed around standard bike dimensions. For example, when our > house was built, I got the builder to install a rack along the side of the > garage so that that our bikes could be hung from their front or rear > wheels, and set the height so that the longest of my bikes had two or three > inches clearance to the floor. Any higher and my wife has problems lifting > her bikes onto the hooks. But the Appaloosa I bought back in 2021 is so > long that I can't hang it from the front wheel as the back wheel hits the > ground with the bike a long way from vertical - the only way to hang it is > by the rear wheel with the front wheel turned quite a bit sideways, but > that doesn't work so well if I have other bikes on either side. Same > problem on Swiss and Austrian trains, where the height of the hooks in > carriages for hanging your bike is insufficient for these long chainstays. > Not a problem with bikes on regional trains in Italy, as you just wheel > your bike on and park it at the side of the carrriage. However, at Brescia > railway station this morning, I had to carry my bike up and down the stairs > to get to our platform, as even with the front wheel turned, the lifts were > not long enough for an Appaloosa. My wife's bike fitted no problem. > > Nick Payne > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/b56d3577-2b7b-47c6-bebe-7251f674bf1en%40googlegroups.com.
