I replaced the housing and the cables.
  I wonder if it needs a long pull derailleur?

On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 7:34:13 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> My thoughts:
>
> 1. Installing shifters on Paul mounts can be finicky, remove and start 
> over. 
>
> 2. You may need fresh inner wires, maybe even housing. 
>
> 3. Some newer road Shimano front derailleurs have a new-to-me cable 
> routing which may not work well with friction thumbies. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
>
> On Monday, September 2, 2024 at 2:37:15 PM UTC-7 Jeffrey S wrote:
>
>> I got a set of Shimano bar-end shifters for my wife's bike. They are the 
>> set with the black rubber tips, not the grey.
>>
>> They are not working properly on the bike. I have tried several 
>> adjustments, but something is wrong. There isn't a good, continuous 
>> friction. They feel loose and don't stay in place. The rear deraileur keeps 
>> slipping into higher gears. The front deraileur also requires an excessive 
>> amount of force to shift into a higher gear.
>>
>> I have the grey ones on my bike and they are perfect. I am wondering if 
>> the black ones are different.
>>
>> She has a Shimano Ultegra deraileur on the back and a Shimano Tiagra on 
>> the front. Both front and rear are having this issue. The front deraileur 
>> also requires a lot of force to shift into a higher gear.
>>
>

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