Made some adjustments last night and gave it a long-ish ride, to see if I can 
pinpoint the issues. I moved the seat back a bit and lowered it slightly, and 
staying seated was a little easier, so perhaps it was on the high side. 

As for the twitchiness, which seems new, I am wondering if I need to replace 
the bearings on my headset. While it is a little wobbly generally, where it is 
most noticeable is if I hit a bump while the wheel is turned, it seems to 
“jump” a long way in the direction of the turn, like it is notched. When not 
moving, the headset seems smooth, so I’m not sure it is a bearing issue or 
something not headset related. 


> On Aug 21, 2024, at 4:04 PM, CMR <cmillerrosa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Boscos on a quickbeam might come back too far, especially with an 11cm stem. 
> I think an albatross on a dirt drop would be too close for me too honestly, 
> even on a big bike.
> 
> Brooks can be slippery, which is a good and a bad thing. A cheap experiment 
> might be a non-leather saddle further back on the rails.
> 
> Do you have any other bikes with upright bars that fit well?
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:48:38 PM UTC-7 ajanj...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Keith - 
>> 
>> Thanks. I was under the impression that one way to get less-squirrelly 
>> turning was to extend the length of the stem, so that it requires more 
>> rotation to turn the wheel. The reason I considered pairing it with Boscos 
>> was to bring the ends of the bars backwards at the same time.
>> 
>> - Andrew
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 21, 2024, at 3:08 PM, iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com <>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>>> (I wasn't clear, but my QB is the same 60cm size as my other Riv bikes.)
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 1:06:43 PM UTC-6 iamkeith wrote:
>>>> Well, a longer stem normally only adds stability because it puts your 
>>>> weight further forward.  If you use a bar where the grip area is further 
>>>> back than you were before  -  despite having a longer stem - it's not 
>>>> going to do what you want.  
>>>> 
>>>> I have been wrestling with how to set up my quickbeam for decades.  I 
>>>> don't want to get rid of it, because it has some sort of magic ride 
>>>> quality that not even my other Rivendells have.  I just want it set up in 
>>>> a way that I'll be inclined to use it more.   Like you, I "barely" clear 
>>>> the top tube.  I wouldn't even consider another size though. That 
>>>> clearance issue is mostly because of a higher bottom bracket - to 
>>>> accommodate somebody who wantes to ride fixed gear - not the rest of the 
>>>> frame size.   Compared to my 60 Ram, my 60 AR and my 60 Saluki - all from 
>>>> the same general era - it is still ideally sized other than that. It does 
>>>> have a longer top tube than the ohterwise-similar-geometry Ram, and I 
>>>> think that's where some of the magic comes from.  It's closer to the AR 
>>>> and Saluki in that dimension.
>>>> 
>>>> I do think the frame works best with a bit of forward lean, rather than 
>>>> upright, posture.   I'm kind of over drop bars though, so I'm considering 
>>>> Chocos or a "three-speed" type bar.  Both of those are similar to 
>>>> moustache/albastache bars, except for having the brakes on the rear part 
>>>> of the bar.   If those fail, then a moustache is always my default choice, 
>>>> and probably perfectly suited to the bike.  If you haven't given them a 
>>>> fair try - experimenting with differnet stems - I'd suggest that first.   
>>>> The only hesitation in my own case is that I already have them on so many 
>>>> bikes and want some variety.
>>>> On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 12:43:51 PM UTC-6 ajanj...@gmail.com <> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> So as I mentioned, I am considering a Roaduno, but since I’d love not to 
>>>>> spend the $$$ on a new frame, I’m considering just fixing some of the 
>>>>> issues I am having with my Quickbeam instead. Right now it is set up with 
>>>>> a short Dirt Drop and albatross bars. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Aside from the gnarly aesthetics of the well-loved frame, my main issues 
>>>>> with it are:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. A slightly too-big frame. It’s a 56, and my PBH is 83cm. The standover 
>>>>> is close, but I do just clear the top bar with my feet on the ground. 
>>>>> Worse is that I think the top bar is a little long, so I’m constantly 
>>>>> sliding forward in the seat to reach the bars (the seat, a B68, is as far 
>>>>> forward on the post as possible). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. Squirrely steering.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What do people think about the idea of replacing the Albatross bars with 
>>>>> Boscos and the Dirt Drop with a 110mm Faceplater, with the idea being 
>>>>> that it would bring the bars both up and back to keep me in the seat, and 
>>>>> the longer stem would provide more steering stability? I figure I can 
>>>>> always trim the bars down if they come back too far.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> 
>>>>> ––
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