Diana, I'm veering off topic a bit - but - I really like the look of that 
top tube bag on your Platypus. Looks like it was made specifically for it. 
 Is it a custom?

On Sunday, August 18, 2024 at 10:14:47 AM UTC-4 Diana H wrote:

> Hi Leah,
>
> Following up on my promise to go to Riv HQ to ask about road bikes. I was 
> there yesterday asking about their road bikes and swapping my Platy for an 
> Atlantis/Appa (which, btw I'm still interested 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/fm4J73xi4Oo/m/nuKyafGkAQAJ> 
> to do! Looking for newer models so my parts transfer).
>
> For road bikes I was only able to test ride the Homer, but wow it felt 
> twitchy and fast. Between the Homer and Roadini, Riv suggested the Homer bc 
> it had more brazeons and tire clearance. The Roadini is as much as a road 
> bike you can get (aside from the roadeo), but you won't be doing anything 
> else other than group rides with it.
>
> Anyway seems like a moot point bc you're back in Platy land, but wanted to 
> follow-up anyway!
>
> Here is a photo tax of the Platy on the Smoke and fire 400 this past May.
> [image: PXL_20240528_122632380.jpg]
> On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 4:34:16 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> It does seem like the Roadeo is fairly close.
>>
>> The Waterford used Reynold 531 OS tubing. I don't know any further specs 
>> though. It has an interesting feature where the cable stops are integrated 
>> into the lugs on the headtube. It was designed to work easier/better/more 
>> specifically with brifters.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 28, 2024 at 3:44:57 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, thanks. I looked at one of the miscellaneous "old Rivendell" geo 
>>> charts and found that for the Ram (don't know if the specs changed during 
>>> the Ram's lifespan or which model, if more than 1, these specs refer to, 
>>> but here they are. The second edition, blue Ram that I owned had these 
>>> specs.
>>>
>>> st 58 c-c, tt 57 c-c, cs 43.5, sta 72, hta 72.5, rake 50
>>>
>>> Versus the Waterford at: 58, 57, 43, 73, 73, rake 43
>>>
>>> Rodeo (per my chart, now years old): 57, 56.5 (sorry, Grant, tt length 
>>> does matter; I'd fit a 58 except that the tt is way too long; 60X56 c-c 
>>> ideal), cs 43, 72.5, 73, rake 43.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 5:10 PM Johnny Alien <johnny....@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here is the geometry chart for the Waterford RS frames of the era that 
>>>> I have.I believe the Riv Rambo was a slightly more slack frame. The 
>>>> roadini 
>>>> for sure is. I think this "might" be kind of close to the Roadeo?[image: 
>>>> Screenshot 2024-07-27 at 7.06.58 PM.png]
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, July 27, 2024 at 6:00:26 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And of course, *Roadeo.*
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 3:57 PM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> That's nice. It would be interesting to learn about the tube lengths 
>>>>>> and the angles and the tubing specs to see how they compare with current 
>>>>>> and older Rivendell purely road models -- Roadini, Road Standard, 
>>>>>> Longlow, 
>>>>>> Rambouillet.
>>>>>>
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