Whoa, this is making the Sam sound like a real slug- 18 mph vs 12 mph. I don't find that kind of differential between my 52 Sam (front and rear racks, SS fenders, Fatty Rumpkins) and my Riv Road (currently no racks, no fenders, 32 Pasela non TG). Is it just that I am so slow to start with? David
On Jun 21, 1:02 am, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for all the suggestions folks. > > Lighter rubber and/or lighter wheels on the Sam are an excellent place to > start. > And I appreciate the suggestion to enjoy the slowness. :) > > But it's not really an illusion - on a different bike (29er mtn bike with > 2.2" knobbys) i can do my 6 mile morning commute (in) in about 20 minutes if > I hit most of the lights. on the Sam, it's more like 30. for commuting I > could care less about the speed, but it's definitely different on the two > bikes, and not in the direction I'd expect. > > For a 100 mile push though.. I do care if it's 6 hours or 8, on the bike. > I'll try lighter rubber and figure out a 30 mile training course or something > and see how it feels. But I do think an expanded geo SimpleOne, ur-Amos, > etc., is in my future. > > Best, > Andrew > > On Jun 20, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Bill Gibson wrote: > > > Perception of speed is just that: subjective. Enjoy your ride! To go > > fast, get a good night's sleep, eat & drink well, be well, don't wear > > flappy clothes, find your fast tires (which may or may not the most > > durable). In that order. > > > The engine, the air, then tires. If it's hilly, OK, lose weight, but > > on the open plain, don't worry. On rolling hills extra momentum might > > even help. > > > On rough roads, my ancient prejudice has recently been scientifically > > confirmed: fatter, lower pressure tires may seem slower, but aren't; > > the song of tubulars and high pressure skinny tires is a siren song. > > > On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Angus <angusle...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> Andrew, > > >> If it were me, changing the tires to a good quality lighter weight > >> tire would be the first thing I would do. Panaracer Paselas (non- > >> tourguard) roll reasonably well and relatively inexpensive. I've got > >> 32s (measure 28-29) on the Rambouillet and 35s (measure 35) on the > >> Quickbeam. Heavier/more durable tires on the Rambouillet were > >> noticeably/measurably slower. > > >> Angus > > >> On Jun 13, 9:17 pm, andrew hill <neurod...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> hi folks, > > >>> i loved riding my first century recently, on a Sam Hillborne, but it was > >>> a pretty slow (though mostly comfortable) push. so the way i have it set > >>> up it's excellent for city commuting and loaded touring / randonneuring, > >>> but still think i want a gofast for club/training rides, built up with > >>> lighter wheels/rubber, etc. > > >>> the thing is - the expanded geometry of the Sam fits my build (and that > >>> of a few other odd ducks who have recently posted) at 5'11 with an 84.5 > >>> pbh, rounding up. > > >>> so - of the current frames new or in circulation, what lightish, > >>> expandedish frame should i be looking for for? should i simply try > >>> another Sam? maybe a size down with a longer stem? :) > > >>> just musing - but i figured y'all would have some opinions. > > >>> thanks, > >>> andrew > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > Bill Gibson > > Tempe, Arizona, USA > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
