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jared

On Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 12:42:05 PM UTC-7 NYCbikeguy wrote:

> Hi, still interested in the frame. how much are you seeking for the frame 
> with shipping?
> Thanks.
>
> Best,
> IY (NYC/CT)
>
> On Thursday, August 15, 2024 at 2:11:47 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:
>
>> Alrighty, major update.
>>
>> Only the frame/fork/hs/eccentric bb/seatpost remain!
>>
>> I'll probably be making a new listing, but if anyone happens across this 
>> posting and is interested, let's chat. 
>>
>> Happy to have a shop ship and open to trades for a 60cm Quickbeam ;)
>>
>> Cheers, and good luck with the build, Brian!
>>
>> jared in SC, CA (but in Berkeley for the day for the parts drop)
>>
>> On Thursday, August 8, 2024 at 8:31:43 AM UTC-7 watta...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Jared-
>>> I’m still very interested in the parts I’m missing for my build:
>>> Wheelset, cranks depending on the length, btm brackets, stems, brakes, 
>>> drivetrain, bars, etc. 
>>>
>>> I’m in Albany and can meet you locally. 
>>> My budget is around $1500. 
>>> 415.420.0265 <(415)%20420-0265>
>>> Let me know your thoughts, I understand you’d rather sell it complete 
>>> but we need a small frame to fit my wife and kids. 
>>> BWatts
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2024, at 5:49 PM, jaredwilson <duh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Still available, still asking $2500.
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's chat :)
>>>
>>> jared in SC, CA
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 17, 2024 at 11:21:18 AM UTC-7 Drurad wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sorry all.  The Hubba did not work out for me, for reasons not having 
>>>> to do with the bike.  But Jared did send me many more pics and the bike 
>>>> looks to be in truly incredible shape.  Someone grab this thing!
>>>>
>>>> -Andrew
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 4:35:39 PM UTC-7 Drurad wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am in the area (I think) and would definitely love to add the Hubbub 
>>>>> to my stable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 4:34:51 PM UTC-7 Drurad wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How about $2500 picked up!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 4:06:33 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow, you got a smoking deal on your large!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately I can't do $2500/shipped, but I can do $2500 *+* 
>>>>>>> shipping (that offer is extended to any other group members as well)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This thing is basically new (sub 50 miles) and won't disappoint.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jared
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 16, 2024 at 3:53:34 PM UTC-7 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the response.
>>>>>>>> Can you do 2500 shipped?
>>>>>>>> I got my complete large hubbuh  for 2000, so i’m disinclined to 
>>>>>>>> spend too much more than ive spent in the past.
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Isaiah
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jul 16, 2024, at 6:37 PM, jaredwilson <duh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey IY,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the interest. I'm *not* looking to part out, but I will 
>>>>>>>> make a great deal on the complete bike and you and Brian can work out 
>>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>>> details of who wants what.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Either of you feel free to send me an email at jaredwi...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> and lets work out some logistics!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> jared
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2024 at 5:42:35 PM UTC-7 watta...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a frame so I’d actually be interested in most the parts🙄
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2024 at 5:41:12 PM UTC-7 Brian Watts wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I’m local and interested in the wheelset. 
>>>>>>>>>> Brian in Albany
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, July 15, 2024 at 7:07:57 AM UTC-7 NYCbikeguy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jared,
>>>>>>>>>>> would you be willing to sell just the hubbuh frame and have it 
>>>>>>>>>>> shipped to the east coast?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> IY (CT/NYC)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 11:39:51 AM UTC-4 mgst...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (oh, sorry, Ron in Western MA
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 14, 2024 at 11:38:08 AM UTC-4 mgst...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi - just wanted to say, i sold my Hub for around 2800 (i 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> forget exactly how much, but sub 3k); great tandem (we've been 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tendering 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for almost 30 years, it was our 5th tandem); THEY CAN BE SHIPPED 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> VIA BIKE 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FLIGHTS! frame & accessories in one box, wheels and misc in 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> another. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Approx $350 to ship (and a few hours of packing). [image: 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMG_0593.jpeg]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a great riding tandem, would have kept it, except we 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> needed a packable, ie s&S coupled one, and wound up with a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ritchey 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> breakaway, which i highly highly recommend (much different from 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Riv 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ride though)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 13, 2024 at 9:19:52 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *$2800 **obo* for the group, WTB Pure V saddles included, no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedals :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone, *please* give this thing some life!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jared in SC, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Monday, May 13, 2024 at 10:01:09 AM UTC-7 jaredwilson 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still not utilizing this guy so let's find a new, hopefully 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local-ish home for this wonderful steed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $3,000, local pickup/meet up preferred, no saddles included.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 3:57:39 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the endorsement, Eric, great looking ride!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They are really groovy machines, it just doesn't fit into 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our lives at the moment.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 2:33:00 PM UTC-7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're on the fence I can attest that these are a blast 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ride. My wife and I have been steadily putting on the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> miles after buying 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Laing's small HH late last year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: image.png]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 4:13 PM jaredwilson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> duh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still available!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can deliver to LA region Sunday-Monday or SF Bay Area 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anytime.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shoot me a message off list and let's chat :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 12:32:03 PM UTC-7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jaredwilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fielded some interest at the $3,000 number, yet still no 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takers so let's try for a bump.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another trip to LA planned for Sunday-Monday if someone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in SoCal wants to step up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 31, 2023 at 10:41:46 PM UTC-7 Jared 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, lets try $3,000!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 27, 2023 at 3:21:05 PM UTC-7 Jared 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Bill!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I'm concerned these are the best tandems 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> available today, or any day for that matter, glad to hear 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you enjoy yours 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was really hopeful someone would grab it before the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weekend, but that ship has sailed. Still available for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> delivery to the Bay 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Area!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone send me a message and let's talk numbers, this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a smokin' deal compared to what it would cost to build 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Jared, who is tired of hitting his head on this bike 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as it hangs from the rafters, in Central CA.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 24, 2023 at 7:01:29 PM UTC-7 Bill 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rhea wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared, I'm feeling your pain at letting this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beautiful tandem go!  I have an orange size M HHH also, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and I really hope 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to never have to sell it because Leslie really enjoys 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our little outings on 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it.  I also had an Ibis Cousin IT for years but this one 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rides better, IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope one of y'all reading will get off the fence 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and pull the trigger on this screaming deal already 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (yeah, you know who you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -br
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 23, 2023 at 3:11:19 PM UTC-7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> duh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bump, let's make a deal before the weekend!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 11:41:06 PM UTC-7 Jared 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> New price, *$3200 OBO.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can deliver to LA area next weekend (26th-29th) or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bay Area whenever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Don't be shy, lets find this amazing tandem a new 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> home just in time for summer :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 4:30:24 PM UTC-7 Jared 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wilson wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And another bump, feel free to make an offer!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 3:59:36 PM UTC-7 JW 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *BUMP*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *$3,500*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 7:40:03 PM UTC-7 JW 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Still have the HHH, let's find it a new home!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *$3,600 picked up in Central California*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, March 23, 2023 at 6:41:34 PM UTC-7 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Price drop!*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *$3,800 delivered to RBW garage sale :)*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 5:50:16 PM UTC-8 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Weekend bump!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 3:42:26 PM 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey group,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This one hurts, just got it put together but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a pending upcoming move we won't be able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> house this amazing bicycle.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd say theres about 2 miles from riding 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around on our farm getting it dialed in, hasn't 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been out on the street yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Specs:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell HubbuHubbuH, Medium, Orange
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stock Headset
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Stock Seatpost
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bushnell Eccentric BB in front, (2) Shimano 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cartridge BBs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Silver 173mm Tandem Cranks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MKS XC-III Pedals
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skeleton Key Front Derailleur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shimano XT Friction Front Shifter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shimano Altus Rear Derailleur
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Silver Rear Friction Shifter
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hands On Wheels built 27.5" Velocity 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cliffhangers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kasai 36H Dynamo Front Hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Velocity 40H Rear Tandem Hub
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maxxis Ikon 27.5"x2.2" Tires, Tubeless
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shimano 11-36? 9 Speed Cassette
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Tosco 65cm Captain Handlebars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ritchey C220 90mm Stem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nitto Bosco 55cm Stoker Handlebars
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ControlTech Adjustable Stoker Stem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WTB Pure V Captain Saddle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Brooks B17 Stoker Saddle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tektro CL740 Brake Levers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shimano Deore BR-T610 V-Brakes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Local pickup only, not willing to ship this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one. I *can* however deliver to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rivendell Garage Sale next weekend on 3/18/23.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Asking $4,000.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please respond off list and let's find this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beauty a nice warm home!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: IMG_6480.jpg]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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