When a man tells me to watch my language, I’ll consider the source. 

Joe = Friend to RivSisters. Hate to tally up the hours he’s spent helping me solve bike problems. All that knowledge-sharing, and never been mean-spirited. If Joe said, “Hey I think you might want to rephrase that,” I probably would. George calls Joe Ralph Kramden and me Annie Oakley, and I don’t think it’s meant to build us up. Furthermore, I’ve shown myself to be of good character over my many years on this List, and I doubt any of you actually think I’m out breaking the law.

So, on Wednesday Evening Rides, I’m going wilding. You aren’t going to police my language, and especially if I know you to be someone who takes pleasure in putting others back in their places. I wrote you a beautiful piece with a fresh take on the traditional “ride reports” but no one has to read it. You can go back to the FS posts and the WTB post...there are so many. 

Also: RivSisters. I love you so. 

Leah



On Aug 8, 2024, at 8:29 PM, Sarah Carlson <sarahlikesbik...@gmail.com> wrote:


Yeah George.... I read it. And Liz kind of nailed how I feel. This is a woman posting about her joyous riding experience. I think anyone who has been engaging on this forum will know that Leah is not out on her rainbow Platy, raping people in Central park and bragging about in on the RBW group. Can we just enjoy the ride report and leave out the mansplaining and dictionary definitions?

And even if you Joe says he's cool with the Ralph Kramden name, it comes across as mean spirited. And I'm too fond of my pal Joe to let that go unsaid.

On Thursday, August 8, 2024 at 5:18:57 PM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
National awareness? 
Man I hope the moderator kills this thread soon. It started out as a fun joyful ride report and it’s devolved into a bunch of dudes arguing about whether or not they would use a word in polite… or maybe less than polite company, considering. Now I have to go down the whole thread just to see the fun pictures.

Go look at the pictures guys, there are Rivendells! There’s anodizing! There are joyful people riding bicycles and touching grass.

Liz

On Aug 8, 2024, at 16:56, Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com> wrote:


I have to agree with George, that one might want to be careful when using this term. This is how it came to national awareness: 


Tragic for all. I was very aware of the incident, having left WDC just ~4 months earlier.


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