>> frame schedule and the upcoming *Lugged *Roadini. 

The Rivendell product schedule is like a fever dream. 

So many variations on one  theme -- or maybe two themes.  Go-fast yet 
comfortable, which are the most interesting bikes to me (Roadini, Gallop, 
AHH, maybe Sam), plus the long step-through bikes, which I'd have to try 
one to see what I'm missing. They started showing up, what, a decade ago, 
and I lose track how many iterations have been built.

I'm not against step-through, it just doesn't solve any problems for me. 
The recent 'string test' video showing how flexy Clem & Co get under load 
was a real eye opener. I would have predicted a small fraction of the 
movement shown. And in typical Riv fashion, they point out it's 
"unscientific" testing -- looked pretty good to me -- and then show exactly 
what they found. You have to respect that kind of integrity. I'm pushing 
200 lbs. ready to ride and I don't want my bike to flex that much. Diamond 
frames for me, and chain stays 46 cm and shorter.

Given the choice, I'll take lugged over TIG'd also, but I wouldn't spend 
much time worrying about it. Aesthetics are good, but I ride to ride. 
That's a lot of effort to make Roadini version 2. I'm really surprised by 
that. It's not like welded frames are weaker.

Sometimes the Riv model carousel is reminiscent of the car industry in the 
60s, with models updating every year. Judging by the purchasing habits of 
this group, it's a sound strategy ;)

I continue to be intrigued and baffled by Rivendell. I'm a regular parts 
customer and their products have made my riding more pleasant. But some of 
their orthodoxy doesn't do it for me. Like riding without padded shorts, to 
which I returned early this year, and which worked great for long, cool 
rides... until I hit a muggy day and spent forty miles sandpapering the 
backs of my legs with soggy cotton. Not fun,  two weeks to heal, and 
nobody's fault but mine. So much learning.

I'll stop this rant and go ride my bike.

cheers -mathias

On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 1:01:25 PM UTC-4 Jim M. wrote:

> Here's a shot of a Gallop at RBW last week. Lugs everywhere but bottom 
> bracket. I like the ride but would prefer drop bars, at least at this size. 
> The recommendation is buy the size smaller than recommended if you want 
> drops. 
> [image: IMG_9084.JPG]
>
> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 9:26:24 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I think the Gallop is going to be fully lugged correct? The geometry is 
>> probably pretty close through the iterations but visually its very 
>> different than how it started. Its been quite some time since they offered 
>> a fully lugged road frame I standard production. I prefer the swoop and 
>> canti posts BUT it looks really nice and I still appreciate the angled top 
>> tube. They say its designed for sweptback but can handle drops. I think 
>> they should just lean in hard one way or the other. I have mine set up with 
>> sweptback because I feel like thats where it was supposed to go. But also 
>> interesting is that means there is no road focused drop by bike in the 
>> standard lineup. At least not designed to be so. I think that the Gallop 
>> and Roadini could co-exist with the Roadini being more affordable and 100% 
>> road focused with drops. I don't think thats what is happening though, I 
>> think the Roadini is goin away for now.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 12:06:38 PM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Throw some Canti posts on the Roadini while they are brazing, and I'm a 
>>> buyer.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 5, 2024 at 11:04:26 AM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Grant's most recent Blahg mentioned the frame schedule and the upcoming 
>>>> *Lugged 
>>>> *Roadini. It seems the Charlie H Gallup may replace the Roadini as the 
>>>> partially lugged more affordable road bike. I appreciate the cream colored 
>>>> head tubes and full lugs but I also really like my solid Mermaid Roadini 
>>>> so 
>>>> I don't feel like I'm missing out. 
>>>>
>>>> Will the Charlie H Gallup be longer than the Roadini? If so, I do think 
>>>> it might work better for me but we shall see. For those waiting for the 
>>>> CHG, Grant lists them as coming in September.
>>>>
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>

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