I believe 2019 was the only year the 58 had that tire size and geo.  I have 
a 2019  with the geo shown on bike insights.  I think after that it was 
changed to 700c wheels and maybe some other tweaks.  I have an 87 PBH and 
it fits nicely.

On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 8:03:53 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I'm about the same PBH.  The Stack and Reach numbers on the bike insights 
> link would be great for me.  Those numbers are right in the neighborhood of 
> where I shop.  That said, I'm having a hard time reconciling the numbers, 
> the date, and the silhouette on bike insights.  The three things don't line 
> up.  
>
> The silhouette looks like the current Hilsen silhouette, and the date of 
> 2019 lines up with approximately when the current Hilsen was introduced, 
> but then the numbers would be wrong, and the most obvious way they would be 
> wrong is the wheel size.  A current Hilsen in 58 would take 700c wheels.  
>
> The numbers, including the wheelsize, look like the old Hilsen.  But the 
> old Hilsen would have a flatter top tube silhouette, and I think would 
> pre-date 2019.  
>
> So, are you absolutely sure the numbers on bike insights match the 
> physical bike you are thinking about buying?  Do you have a photo of the 
> bike you are thinking about buying?  Did the seller of the bike point you 
> at bike insights and guarantee you that their bike exactly match these 
> numbers?  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 10:29:58 PM UTC-7 xerox-dream wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I had a pretty basic question, but wanted everyone’s opinion and 
>> expertise. I am thinking of getting a 58CM 2019  a homer Hilson my PBH is 
>> 86 to 86 1/2. currently I’m riding a 55 CM platypus and that’s been great. 
>> just reaching out if anyone has a similar set up with a similar PBH?
>>
>>
>> https://bikeinsights.com/bike-geometries/5cedbc58663b2d0017aa071d-2019-rivendell-bicycle-works-a-homer-hilsen-mit-58
>>
>> i guess this model was 650b compared to newer 700c model for this frame 
>> size
>>
>

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