I was reading it as attacking a stranger for their curiosity. Definitely wasn't aware of the friendship so sincere apologies for casting aspersions.
On Friday, April 19, 2024 at 10:49:03 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote: > Yeah, Bill is always mean to me; I'm used to it. > > Bill: Idle curiosity, that's all. I read Jan Heine somewhere saying that > very good modern clinchers are actually faster than good tubulars and I > wondered if anyone has ridden both and can compare them from personal > experience. There was a time when I toyed with the idea of trying tubulars, > perhaps on that very Libertas, but I'm so happy with the great clinchers > from Schwalbe and RH and Soma that I really don't have much motivation to > do that. > > Libertas: Still need to take it to my brother's house to get a better idea > of how fat a tire it will take in the different diameters.The frame is no > good to me for the use I'd last planned for it -- an allrounder beater that > can ride on the firmer (= shallower sand) ditchbank roads, which requires a > minimum of 38 mm and better 42. The frame cannot take 622X38s in front or > rear; it won't take 559 X 50s, and I have to figure out if it will take 584 > X 42s or even 38s. > > I may do a little impromptu vise-work on the inside of the rear stays .... > we'll see. > > On Fri, Apr 19, 2024 at 9:26 AM Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't think it's cynical or aggressive, I'm just trying to get the >> context of Patrick Moore's tubular-curiosity. >> >> Lots of people read the RBW group because it's something to read that >> generates interesting stuff. The majority of the users are lurkers and >> that's perfectly OK >> Lots of people pick up info on one Google Group board and then insert it >> into another where they think it can be helpful. That's also perfectly OK >> Some people are just lifelong learners and want to learn everything there >> is to know about bicycles, even the stuff they'd never buy. That's also >> fine. >> Some people want to gather info about a specific project on the horizon, >> and having that target in mind can help focus the exchange >> Finally, Patrick Moore has been sitting on a frame set, with a >> 5-year-long narrative of intents to build it. That's the only machine in >> his possession that I know of that could feasibly "take" sew-ups. I >> excitedly asked about that. >> >> I think those are five very different and perfectly reasonable motives, >> and could help generate responses that get the asker what they want. Maybe >> you picked up cynicism or aggressiveness because you suspect Patrick Moore >> and I are strangers. That is not the case. We go back over a decade. >> >> Bill Lindsay >> El Cerrito, CA >> >> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 8:23:55 PM UTC-7 exliontamer wrote: >> >>> That's a very cynical & aggressive response to that question. >>> >>> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 7:26:27 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote: >>> >>>> "interested to hear how..." to what end? Just so you have something >>>> to read? So you can pick up a smart comment to re-use in another forum >>>> later? Just as an academic consideration about "Bicycle"? Or for some >>>> practical application that you are personally considering? Are you >>>> thinking about setting up *"that Libertas" * with tubulars? >>>> >>>> Bill Lindsay >>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>> >>>> On Thursday, April 18, 2024 at 2:58:29 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'll be interested to hear how users of both compare the ride and >>>>> "feel" of tubulars to clinchers with tubes and tubeless clinchers.* Is it >>>>> true that modern supple clinchers can roll better than equivalent >>>>> tubulars? >>>>> With tubes or only tubeless? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> * I realize that "wired on" is the correct term but this isn't the CR >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 18, 2024 at 11:42 AM Bill Lindsay <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A discussion a while back touched on a couple people revealing that >>>>>> they run sew-ups on their Rivendell. Show a photo of your Rivendell >>>>>> with >>>>>> sew-ups! >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's my 57cm Legolas. I briefly reconfigured it as a 2x road bike, >>>>>> but it's in-process getting switched back to a cyclocross racing set up. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, I will not be racing cyclocross any time soon, but I will be using >>>>>> it >>>>>> for rides of that kind. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/53661740502/in/dateposted/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Bill Lindsay >>>>>> El Cerrito, CA >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/68187836-f8ad-42c2-b25b-9c8b777db6a3n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/68187836-f8ad-42c2-b25b-9c8b777db6a3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Patrick Moore >>>>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other >>>>> writing services >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >>>>> >>>>> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >>>>> >>>>> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >>>>> >>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5186b2bf-6735-49e8-be87-b80450de43b1n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/5186b2bf-6735-49e8-be87-b80450de43b1n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing > services > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* > > *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* > > *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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