Thanks for the thoughts, and humour ;-) Josiah - I had a Pro saddle a couple years ago, it was okay, but didn't work on that particular bike at the time (wish I still had it).
Ted - I noticed the Soma Ensho a month ago when scanning saddles (brown ones, for the Riv) and I didn't see availability. On my radar though! George - I've been sampling some (Amazon), and this has proved a wise move as I've returned 5 or so saddles in the last year (kept a few too). When I've got a good deal at an LBS, like I did with the Brooks, I'll take the risk. Usually I can sell for a small loss, depending on the saddle, but the used market is tough these days (at least up here in Canada). Funny (good) thing this morning with the Brooks, I put it on my Fargo (that I use on mixed-use trails in my town) and went for a short ride this morning. I didn't wear bib shorts. Just some compression-type boxers with no seams in the wrong places, tights (was -5C) and went for a ride on the trails behind my house (just a few km in one direction, but I went back and forth for about 30 minutes). Saddle was very comfortable! Maybe it was because I wasn't wearing bibs that have just don't work for me. I recall posts on another thread I started about dealing in a Brooks, where people mentioned not wearing padded shorts, that stuck with me and I gave it a shot. I didn't have any sit bone pain, perineum discomfort and no friction. I was on/off the saddle a lot (and the bike, clearing blown over branches) and maybe that helped...as it wasn't a 1hr+ ride of constant pedaling. I'll stick with this set up for a while and see how it goes. Maybe it's those darn bib shorts giving me grief (I've tried many over the years, with plastic saddles). I'll report back after a few rides. On Thursday, February 29, 2024 at 5:15:02 PM UTC-5 ttoshi wrote: > Rivet saddles used to allow you to try a bunch of their saddles before you > chose one to keep. I'm not sure if they are doing that nowadays... > > Toshi > > On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 1:45 PM George Schick <bhi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The trouble is that experimenting around with these different saddle >> widths, lengths, "scoops," or whatever in order to find the right fit can >> run into a lot of money. Most of these saddles, Brooks especially, aren't >> cheap and having to buy and try one only to find that it doesn't work for >> you can be a difficult decision. Too bad that someone hasn't developed a >> "saddle fit" device like the "fit kit" where one could experience the ride >> of all these different kinds of dimensions. But that's probably an >> impractical idea... >> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 6:45:42 PM UTC-6 Jay wrote: >> >>> I'll preface this by saying I know saddles are highly subjective, and >>> what works for one may not work fo you. What I wanted to ask about is >>> "general thinking". Just wanting to confirm some thoughts I've had about >>> this... >>> >>> My sit bones are 125mm apart. I've had them measured a few times. This >>> is when I'm sitting upright. I believe general rule is the more upright >>> you are on the bike, the wider you go with the saddle (e.g., if I'm 90 >>> degrees/straight up, add a few cm; aero, maybe just one cm). Any other >>> logic to share with respect to sit bones and saddle width? >>> >>> My saddle is level with tops of my bars (on two of three bikes). This >>> puts me in a comfortable position, maybe 60 degrees when I'm in the hoods. >>> All three bikes have drop bars, but only the older road bike has bars below >>> the saddle. My neck and upper back feel great in this position, and I've >>> previously had issues in this area, so that's a victory. >>> >>> I'm still dialing in my Roadini, but for now I have a WTB Silverado on >>> there (135 wide). It's maybe a little narrow, but I've done 2hr rides and >>> felt fine (pedalling is not impeded at all, and it's comfortable in the >>> nether regions). Feels like my sit bones are close to the edge but I can >>> feel around there and know there is just enough room to spare. I've had >>> that same saddle on another bike and that was also fine. Not a big fan of >>> the edges on that saddle, as it's very flat across and feels like it's >>> digging in a bit (a cm further out than my sit bones), but I'm trying to >>> sort that out and not really my point with this post (just sharing for >>> context). Reason I went with this 135mm saddle is my previous 147mm >>> Prologo felt too wide, and the cut out was digging in the nether regions. >>> So I tried something more narrow and I no longer get that discomfort. >>> >>> I do have a Brooks B17, and I've had one before on an older bike, and a >>> few other leather saddles over the years. What's attracted me to them is >>> that I rarely got any friction or chafing, or sit bone pain. I do set them >>> up, nose up, so rear of the saddle is flat and I'm not sliding forward. >>> >>> However, the B17 is 35mm wider than the WTB, and 45mm wider than my sit >>> bones, so I'm wondering if this saddle make sense for me...and anyone else >>> with similar 'specs'. I've read/watched reviews where much bigger folks >>> love the saddle (some hate it too, but that's maybe about >>> leather/hardness). Some of the reviews are from people who say their sit >>> bones are 150+ apart. That gives them 10mm on either side, vs. my 22.5mm >>> per side. I realize how we sit on the saddle, torso angle, etc., are >>> different, but generally speaking...like do skinny people or those with >>> somewhat narrow sit bones get along great with this saddle? If so, is >>> there a set up trick for them, that is different than someone with much >>> wider sit bones? I would say my problem with it is pedalling freedom, and >>> not feeling impeded by the size of the saddle, the skirt, etc. I can't say >>> for sure that's my problem with it, just giving a theory. >>> >>> I'll pause there, as I'll likely get some good questions/comments and >>> can take it from there. Thanks! >>> >> -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/087151f1-0465-409a-a4f9-5f5afeddb428n%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/087151f1-0465-409a-a4f9-5f5afeddb428n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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