I agree. With the sloping top tube a 50cm frame fits me similar to a 54cm 
frame with traditional geometry (like a Rambouillet or Saluki...both of 
which I have owned). A 54 will be something similar to a 58. For road 
riding you will have a tough time upsizing and getting a classic fit. One 
of the reasons that Riv loves step over/step thru/etc is because they love 
to size people up and that allows it to be easier but still that wouldn't 
be the way to go if you want a road setup. If I wanted a road frame and I 
absolutely did not want to get on a 50 then I would suggest waiting until 
the Charlie Gallop comes out because the step thru design will allow that 
easier. But even then it would be tough to get a good drop bar setup by 
going larger like that.

On Thursday, February 8, 2024 at 10:44:22 AM UTC-5 four...@gmail.com wrote:

> HI Doug,
>
> I would really reconsider Will's advice.. In my experience, Riv bikes ride 
> big.. the Bleriot Grant put me on back in the day always felt too large and 
> the AHH I got from my Dad doesn't feel any too large (with drop bars) for 
> me.. I say that as it should have been sized for my Dad and he was a good 
> 2" shorter than me.. at 5'9" (31" PBH and 68cm seat height normally), I 
> wouldn't consider anything larger than a 50cm and I don't think that will 
> feel small by any means.. 
>
> BTW- anyone have a 50cm Roadini they want to move on? :) 
>
> Chris 
>
> On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 6:05:25 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Will from Rivendell would recommend a 50 for you as he did for me. I'm 
>> 5'10" (almost) with an 83 PBH. My saddle height is 71.5 cm. But, I'm still 
>> thinking I would prefer a 54.
>> Doug
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 7, 2024 at 4:21:17 PM UTC-5 Judd Levy wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the link, I saw that one as well, unfortunately too big.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 4:51:21 PM UTC-5 Lucky wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was just thinking I had seen one recently but it’s a 57. Nonetheless 
>>>> here’s the link:
>>>>
>>>> [image: 418748400_7019085838173016_3719984432333502610_n.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> Rivendell Leo Roadini 
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/947484313436277/?mibextid=HHaHfI>
>>>> facebook.com 
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/947484313436277/?mibextid=HHaHfI>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/947484313436277/?mibextid=HHaHfI>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 1, 2024, at 13:30, Doug H. <dhansf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Judd,
>>>>
>>>> I was in the same boat recently, actually still am. Can I ask what your 
>>>> height and PBH is for reference?
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, February 1, 2024 at 4:20:19 PM UTC-5 Judd Levy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello fine folks 
>>>>>
>>>>> I am looking for a 54cm Roadini, no preferences for year or color. 
>>>>>  Prefer complete but open to frame as well, thanks.
>>>>>
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