I too have tried B17s level and it doesn't work for me. The nose up 
slightly is my preferred setting. It looks odd to my eyes when I'm not on 
the bike and I've seen them turned up much farther than I would like. It 
seems that there are many variations of bums and you have to adjust to your 
comfort. Let us know how you like the Roadini!
Doug

On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 at 7:57:56 AM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Jay, my experience only…
> I read on the Analog site I think, that a B17 properly adjusted does not 
> need a break in to be comfortable. I concur. My first B17 may have come to 
> me with a few miles on it but it was sublimely comfortable as soon as I got 
> the nose up. Probably important to note that I am bolt upright Lon my Clem 
> with Bosco bar higher than the saddle by at least a couple of inches. Based 
> on that experience I ordered a brand new B17 for my Gus. I replicated my 
> position including nose up & that is even more comfortable. I do not know 
> if the nose up thing works on a more road oriented position especially with 
> drops? And, I have not worn padded shorts in a long time. 100% merino 
> boxers for me. Prior to being gifted the first B17 I had a B67 on the Clem. 
> It was very good but when I reluctantly tried the B17 I never looked back.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 30, 2024, at 10:27 PM, Jay <jason....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Next week I'll be throwing a leg over a Roadini for the first time (I 
> posted a couple weeks ago about the frame I ordered) and I thought I was 
> set on my saddle, but decided yesterday I need to try something very 
> different.  
>
>
> A little bit of background before I get to my question...
>
> When I started cycling around 20 years ago I had Brooks B17 on my road 
> bike (custom geometry, not too aggressive) and a Masi commuter bike.  It 
> was a while ago so I can't recall what I liked about them, and why I 
> eventually stopped using them, but I do recall one memory...I always used 
> padded bib shorts (still do) and one day in the winter I went for a 2hr 
> ride and only realized when I got home that I just had on my underwear and 
> tights.  In at least that way for me at that time, the saddle was that 
> comfortable.
>
> Since that time I've used a lot of plastic saddles from Fizik, Selle 
> Italia and the latest is a Prologo (147mm wide, with a bit of padding).  I 
> used this saddle on two bikes the last 4 months and it was a noticeable 
> improvement over the Selle Italia saddles I was using previously.  I 
> thought this is what I would use on the Roadini (and still may, in the long 
> run).  But when I use it on my Salsa Fargo (bar level with saddle) and ride 
> for 2+ hours, I get friction and general discomfort.  And can I ride 
> without padded bib shorts?  Heck no, I can't even go around my block 
> without bibs when using this saddle.
>
> To get to my point, I ordered a B17 in Honey to try out on my Roadini. 
>  I'm getting it tomorrow and I'm going to try it on my Fargo (nice weather 
> for next little while).  I know that overall I need to be patient, only 
> change one thing at a time, and only small adjustments.
>
> My thinking, where I wanted to get your input, is that I would be set up 
> the bike so saddle and bars are level, and will likely start with the 
> saddle level (from what I recall this will have the rear of the saddle 
> where my sit bones are located, pointed down a bit, but that's how my 
> Prologo is today and I can ride in the drops and take my hands off and I'm 
> balanced...so I think I'll start there and see how it goes).
>
> Any other words of wisdom that I can consider?  Thanks in advance.
>
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