George, thanks, I'll look with great interest at your later posts. On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 4:26 PM George Schick <bhim...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Patrick: yes to several of your requests. But I don't want to clutter up > this blog with photos so I'm sending you a PM with them attached. > > On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 3:36:55 PM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: > >> I am thinking of getting a second wheelset for the 2016 Chauncey Matthews >> "road bike for dirt" to supplement the very nice, very all-rounder-type 48 >> mm labeled/50 actual Soma Supple Vitesse SL wheelset. The second wheelset >> would have knobbies for sand, since the Somas just don't have the float and >> directional stability that I need for our sandy trails. >> >> Riv content: I told Chauncey to measure my 2 (at the time) custom Riv >> Roads and make the new bike handle as much l like those as possible. (And >> with the Somas it does, wonderful; the 60 mm Big Ones wallowed and wandered >> --- not horrible, just not Rivendell-like -- tho' they floated well over >> sand.) >> >> I am thinking of using RH knobbies -- since the reportedly once >> superlatively light and fast Thunder Burt has gained oz and stiffness >> compared to its first edition. *(730 grams for the 700C X 2.35!!* The >> 2.35 Big Ones are a digitally true 450 grams, and the F Freds that the TBs >> replaced were a true 360 at a true 50 mm.) >> >> The 55 mm Fleecer Ridges (per specs ELs would probably measure very close >> to 60 tubeless on my 27 mm IW rims) for max float; but this would mean >> removing the Kelpie fenders. >> >> I like fenders. I live in the high desert with an average 9" of rain a >> year but we have a *lot* of dust and full fenders keep a great deal of >> it off my legs and off of the bike. Also, the Matthews was one of my 2 >> "rain bikes" -- puddles and snow melt included. >> >> I used these fenders with 60 mm Big Ones, but those were smooth tread and >> even so barely cleared under the seatstay bridge; about 5 mm. >> >> Obviously, using ~60 mm knobbies with these fenders would be foolish, and >> I've been thinking that perhaps the Oracle Ridge might work with them, at >> barely 50 mm extrapolated from the website; the 50 mm Somas have perhaps >> just shy of 2 cm of clearance at that tight spot under the seatstay bridge >> and 3 cm+ under the fork crown. (The Big Ones measured ~29 1/2" tall, the >> Somas ~28 1/2" tall, so 1/2 inch/~12mm difference.) >> >> So I'm curious if any of youse use fenders with knobbies and: >> >> 1. What is the minimum gap your require? >> >> 2. how big are the knobs? IOW, are small, even knobs as on the RH >> knobbies safer with fenders than the big fat knobs on real mtb tires? >> >> 3. What do you say in particular to ~50 mm Oracle Ridges under full >> fenders with the clearances described? >> >> I cannot use the aftermarket stay breakaway systems because the Kelpie >> stays are 50% fatter than the stays they were designed for. >> >> 4. If I don't use full fenders I will certainly install "motocross-style" >> fenders, but those I've seen are fugly. >> >> 4.a) Are there non-fugly clip ons? >> >> 4.b)Share photos? >> >> 4.c) Source/link? >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Patrick Moore >> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing >> services >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* >> >> *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* >> >> *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6453bfa3-5e51-445e-9ddb-beb86be8b52dn%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/rbw-owners-bunch/6453bfa3-5e51-445e-9ddb-beb86be8b52dn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- Patrick Moore Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Executive resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, letters, and other writing services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- *When thou didst not, savage, k**now thine own meaning,* *But wouldst gabble like a** thing most brutish,* *I endowed thy purposes w**ith words that made them known.* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. 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