The pre-NORBA bike was a pristine Cycle Pro, as I just recall.

On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 2:57 PM Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have to differ about NORBA-era mountain bike conversions compared to
> earlier, much slacker designs. I've converted 5 NORBA-era rigid mtbs to all
> rounder use, with "tourist" and with drop bars -- the latter using upjutter
> stems -- the 10 cm Nitto Dirt Drop worked very well; and I've converted at
> least 1 slacker, pre-NORBA design. The NORBAs rode nicely -- sedately but
> very pleasantly; a wee bit slower to turn in than my Ram -- this with
> sufficiently fat tires; they're horrible with skinny tires; while the
> slacker one rode like a wheelbarrow.
>
> With upjutter stems I was able to get a comfortable drop bar position with
> weight comfortably distributed despite the too-long top tubes, where I
> could ride comfortably on the hoods and in the hooks with my torso and not
> my shoulders-arms-hands taking the weight -- essentially, a relaxed road
> bike position.
>
> Different people, different preferences of course, but I do think that how
> you set up a NORBA-type frame makes a huge difference in how it fits,
> feels, and handles.
>
> On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:41 AM iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nice bike, Dave.  I kind of interpreted it the same way as you.  The
>> caveat being that not all old mtbs are created equal, and it probably works
>> better the older they are.  By '88 / '89 or so, the frame angles had gotten
>> so steep, owing to NORBA fashion, that they required a good portion of the
>> rider's weight to be distributed to the handlebars.  At least that's what
>> Ive concluded when trying to turn them into more upright riders.  They just
>> feel twitchy without weight on the front.
>
>

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