Whoa! I think the BSNYC audience is bike fanciers who spend too much time online talking about bikes.
My online randonneur friends are all Golden Agers (like the book), and the bikes I see at shows and in photo albums are, too. BikeSnob's randonneur friends are probably the same. The carbon loving randonneurs either have different bike forums, or do something else in their off-time. I hear they exist, but they aren't real to me I've never read BSNYC say or imply ANY of the shit you and Steve are blaming him for. This whole thread is now an archive of findable internet rhetoric characterizing randonneurs as nerds and retro- grouches. Philip 97128 JoelMatthews wrote: > > You have to know your AUDIENCE to make a proper joke. > > I like to think people smart enough to buy a Rando style bike are > smart enough to know Star Trek got Cosmology wrong on more levels than > a 10th Century priest. > > Or are you saying BSNYC's audience for the joke was not Rando owners > but rather people too dense to understand both the Rando concept or > the many levels Star Trek failed to get things right? > > If the latter, who wants that audience? At least WWF fans realize > half the joke is their own willing suspension of rational thought. > > On Jun 9, 12:15 am, Philip Williamson <philip.william...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Must... not... reply... > > > > You have to know your AUDIENCE to make a proper joke. > > > > Birders and what-have-yous have zero cultural relevance. There are > > very few stereotypes about bird-watchers. No one would know if the > > comparison was apt or not, so they wouldn't know if it was funny. If > > BSNYC likened randonneurs to birders... birders would actually become > > culturally relevant. > > > > <snip own post> > > > > I have hypertrophied sense of humor. I am a nerd. > > It's obvious that BSNYC reads the same (and more!) bike forums that I > > do, for the past dozen years or so. I think you need a grounding in > > 1990s rec.bicycles.tech to even know that Jobst Brandt is "the uber- > > curmudgeon." > > > > And before Jim moves Patrick and me to separate seats, I'm going to go > > post a question about CR720s on a Quickbeam that maybe some of you can > > answer. > > > > Philip > > > > > > > > JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > Is it possible, do you think, that he doesn't understand either > > > > randonneuring or Star Trek? > > > > > Well, you have to know your subject if you are going to make a proper > > > joke. > > > > > On Jun 8, 5:26 pm, Steve Palincsar <palin...@his.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2010-06-08 at 14:35 -0700, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > > > Oh, come now! My antennae quiver with delight when BSNYC (let us > > > > > > bow our > > > > > > heads in wonderment and admiration .... pause ... OK, back to > > > > > > regular > > > > > > garrulousness) pokes fun at something I like. He is just funny. GD > > > > > > vulgar, > > > > > > too, but funny. > > > > > > > No so much the poking fun, but the comparison. > > > > > > > Even an entry level understanding of cosmology is enough to show Star > > > > > Trek is an absurd impossible fantasy (eg., Paul Davies,'The Eerie > > > > > Silence') . On the other hand, a Rando style bike is arguably as good > > > > > a way to credit card tour as any. > > > > > > > If BSNYC wanted to compare Randos to nerds, he should have used nerds > > > > > with nerding after something outside of the realm of fantasy, such as > > > > > amateur astronomers or birders. Even trainspotters would have made > > > > > more sense. > > > > > > Is it possible, do you think, that he doesn't understand either > > > > randonneuring or Star Trek? > > > > > > >From what I can see, there isn't anything even remotely "retro-grouch" > > > > > > about randonneurs. They're all about getting the job done. Look at the > > > > high-tech lighting systems if you have any doubt of it. If somebody > > > > confuses the presence of fenders with nostalgia for the past or with a > > > > rejection of modern values, whatever they are, he mustn't ride long > > > > distances in the rain.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
