I've been riding SPDs since the mid 1990s when they finally became 
affordable. On my tandem/triplet we had one crash caused my the too long 
for my kid toe strap getting caught in the timing ring. After that I got 
SPD click'r pedals for my kids and they've been riding clipless SPDs since. 
(The hard part was getting SPD shoes small enough for them --- I ended up 
buying the first few pairs used from other cycling families) 

I went to flat pedals for about a year on the MTB --- this was a period 
when I had to get off my bike every so often, run down to the kids and push 
them up the mountain. After a while they got strong enough that a tow rope 
hitched to my bike could drag them up the mountains, so I switched back to 
SPDs and it felt so good.

One thing about SPD is that I never got technically good enough at bunny 
hopping that I could do it without SPDs, but with SPDs I can do it all day 
any time, which is probably a silly reason to like SPDs. And no, my kids 
and I aren't good enough to bunny hop the tandem.

On Tuesday, December 26, 2023 at 6:06:06 AM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:

> My modern cycling (80s onward) has been all with clips and straps then 
> clipless (SPD). 
>
> Weeks after buying my first MTB I coincidentally trashed my right knee 
> (not bike related injury) and it sat unused for almost nine months. When I 
> began riding again it was on a Minoura track stand and required clips and 
> straps to keep my errant right foot on the pedal since it tended to float 
> off the pedal.  In an ill-advised move, I chose to get off the stand and go 
> outside. First on my parent's half mile dead end road, then farther. My 
> right foot continued to require clips and straps as I regained both leg 
> strength and proprioception. I had to become a left foot stop/prop rider 
> after years of doing that with my right foot. As my strength recovered, I 
>  even used Keirin double strap clips before venturing into clipless.  
>
> I got my cycling mojo back and then some. I rode off road  strapped in 
> tightly and had a cat like left hand swat to loosen the buckle of my on/off 
> foot strap. I became discriminating about shoes as the tightened buckles 
> would wear into the uppers quickly. When adopting SPDs I learned how 
> important the show pedal interface was and how critical fit was.
>
> I've been SPD since their distribution began, best for me with Sidi 
> Dominators. My love of fine clip and strap pedals waned despite my history 
> and return to cycling because of them. My last pair were an XC Comp-bodied, 
> Superbe Pro track-caged set that came on my MB-0, traded to (and perhaps 
> the ones mentioned by) Patrick. 
>
> The shoes matter much, they dictate the alignment to the pedals when 
> clipped in so if your foot isn't in them well, the pedals won't . I 
> strongly agree with the BQ "Icons" selection of the Sidi Dominators. They 
> fit me, my foot is in the right place on my SPDs with the right amount of 
> movement for all of my riding. It's just how I roll. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
>
> On Sunday, December 24, 2023 at 8:44:43 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> First entry in new Blahg. And no, he doesn't; he reports someone's 
>> out-of-context judgment.
>>
>> But I'm curious how many on this RBW list like and use retention and how 
>> many don't; and of the former, how many use toe clips and how many use 
>> clipless systems -- and what kind.
>>
>> I'll start: I rode fast for years and thousands of miles in Keds with 
>> thick, soft soles and then rubber-soled lace ups of other sorts on 
>> un-clipped rat-trap pedals (and even rubber block pedals) until in about 
>> 1990 I got my first relatively expensive road bike (1989 Falcon, tout 531C 
>> with Sante group) and decided largely because of bike mag content that I'd 
>> better get with the retention program. I started with Bata Bikers and clips 
>> and straps, graduated to clips and straps and slotted cleats, then pretty 
>> quickly switched to the burgeoning varieties of clipless -- Sampson 
>> Stratics, Grafton "Erector Set" road and mtb pedals, Speedplay X1s and 
>> Frogs, Looks of various sorts, and finally SPDs, road and mtb (by "road" I 
>> mean the ones that came out for about 1 season long long ago with the mtb 
>> mechanism). 
>>
>> A couple of years ago I tried platforms with spikes and no-retention 
>> shoes but after about a month of annoyance always shifting my foot to find 
>> the right position I gave up and went back to SPDs. I've got SPDs on all my 
>> bikes though I've got a very nice set of XC Pros + clips and straps + 
>> almost-as-new wood-soled Duegis with cleats that I'd like to try -- I found 
>> slotted cleats with semi-tight straps easier with a fixed drivetrain than 
>> Look Keos -- except that SPDs are so perfect.
>>
>> So, I've round that having gotten used to retention I find it very hard 
>> to give it up. I daresay that this habituation is stronger since so much of 
>> my riding is on fixed drivetrains, but I'd still want at least clips and 
>> loose-ish straps with rubber soles for any freewheel drivetrain.
>>
>> But again, SPDs just feel so perfect that I will probably just stay with 
>> them.
>>
>> Best wishes to all for the Christmas season.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, finishing up a late resume on Xmas eve in ABQ, NM.
>>
>> -- 
>>
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
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