John - Ive ridden extensively with both studs and regular tires through 
severe Minnesota and Alberta winters. Back when winters had a fair amount 
of temperature consistency I found fat MTB tires were excellent. I loved 
when the cold weather hit -19*c and packed snow becomes hard and squeaky. 
It's a joy to ride. Most trail riding was perfectly adequate if not 
excellent. 

With the winters these days heavy freeze thaw as well as increased cycling 
traffic on winter trails I found things ice up much more often.  I was also 
commuting extensively and found the 45N kahvas to be excellent and worth 
the money. 

Now that I'm in Vancouver I don't bother with anything but fenders. If it's 
slippery I take the bus!



On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 10:22:53 AM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:

> Thanks again to all of you experienced winter riders for the illuminating 
> discussion and worthy suggestions. One significant factor that I don't 
> contend with anymore is the commute to work, so my winter riding is 
> strictly for pleasure. Since most of my riding is on country gravel roads I 
> also don't have to suffer pavement and, in Takashi's words, 'the sound like 
> the end of the world is coming'. 
>
> I've been riding with my very low-tread WTB Nano's in the packed snow and 
> relying on the handling skills honed from over 50 years of riding. So far 
> so good. I don't ride super fast in these conditions and whenever one of my 
> tires tries to slip out from under me I'm able to correct and hold it 
> together, and this always makes me laugh as though I've cheated death or 
> something. 
>
> Again, I am a believer that the right equipment makes a world of 
> difference, but I also really appreciate Andy's reminder that there is no 
> substitute for skillful bike handling. Combining the two is certainly the 
> sweet spot, but for the time being, I think I will forgo the Schwalbe Ice 
> Spikers and focus on mindful riding and practicing my winter riding skills 
> with what I've got. 
>
> I'll let you know if I end up knocking out my front teeth. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 7:02:16 AM UTC-8 Marc Irwin wrote:
>
>> I've used both Nokian  and Schwalbe Marathon Winter on my Hunq.  I prefer 
>> the Schwalbe.
>>
>> Marc[image: 1213150841_05-SNOW.gif]
>>
>> On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 8:34:32 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Went for a ride in snow today and had a blast! I also slipped around a 
>>> little bit as I tried to follow the packed snow of tire tracks. Got me 
>>> thinking about studded tires. I've never ridden them before and know 
>>> nothing about them. 
>>>
>>> Do any of you fine folks with more experience in such matters than me 
>>> have any recommendations for studded tires for my Hunq?
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>

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