Hi, Nice Atlantis! I recommend a cable lock thru the wheels too. Else you’ll come bake to a frame without wheels!
> On Dec 8, 2023, at 6:50 AM, Bill Schaefer <wls...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Josh, > > I actually lock mine up to the single bike rack in the loading dock of my > building. Its in an area open to the public but its under an overhang so it's > not getting rained on, and not too many people go down there, so its > definitely a unique situation, and a bit safer than locking on the street > since its only visible to anyone who wanders down there. Here's a pic from > yesterday I snapped leaving work. The "reserved for management" sign makes me > chuckle every time (that's for the car parking space). > <IMG_4138.jpg> > > > On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 1:09:56 PM UTC-5 Josh C wrote: >> Ginz - Thanks for the reply. I feel like riding it and using it for its >> intended purpose is probably the right answer. I just feel like it may be a >> bit of a target. IDK, it’s mostly us nerds that think Rivss are cool and not >> beach cruisers anyway, right… Forgive me if I should know; do you commute on >> a Rivendell Ginz? >> >> Hoch - My commute is short as well, and by design. The last time I moved and >> got a new job I made sure that my work was in the same zip code as my >> residence. I see your point about riding the Ogre, but again, it’s not a >> cheap bike to replace either. Also, my job is too all-consuming to worry >> about anything else while at work; which can good and bad at times. >> >> Cody - Thanks for adding some real-world experience commuting with that >> killer Hillborne. You’re right, people seem to know Surly better (at least >> here in the Midwest) I probably get more compliments on the Ogre and my >> daughter’s Crosscheck than I do my Rivs. Thanks for adding the pic of your >> bikes…notes the saddle lock…is that wrapped in an old tube? >> >> Bill - Well put. That’s how I’m viewing it. Again, I put more miles on the >> drop bar Atlantis but I ride my commuter WAY more often. Bill, do you have >> the luxury of taking your daily driver inside or do you park out in the >> wild? I’d love to see a pic too if you've got time. >> >> Josiah - Love that you ride those bikes around and lock ‘em up outside. I do >> figure that most people don’t think the Atlantis is cool enough to steal, >> not compared to other bikes around. Indy used to get snow regularly, all >> winter long, but now we get maybe 1 or 2 good snows and the rest is just >> slop. If it’s too nasty I’ll just drive. I don’t have time in the mornings >> to show up covered in road sludge. >> >> B - I agree >> >> Patrick - Told ya. First world problem indeed. I work in a hospital in >> critical care and there just really isn’t anywhere to put it. I do park out >> of the way as much as possible but can't take it in. I love that Matthews >> and your utilitarian approach to John’s strap-rigged, awkward, package >> haul’n >> >> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 12:58:48 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote: >>> I used to do multi-mode commuting before I retired about 18 years ago - >>> ride the bike to the station, take train to the city, walk 4-5 blocks to >>> the office. Never worried much about theft out here in the 'burbs while >>> working downtown because it was an old early 70's Fuji that I had re-geared >>> and converted for commuting. It was the ideal bike for that - rode well, >>> handled well, and was by no means an eye-catcher. >>> >>> BUT, I'd be way more concerned about salt damage during the Winter months >>> (used to live in the Indy area myself and, yes, they use it on the streets >>> there in abundance) and riding on hazardous icy slick surfaces than I would >>> theft. >>> >>> BTW, why the classification of your Indy location, or the U.S. for that >>> matter, as a 1st World country in particular? In many ways nowadays it is >>> backsliding into 3rd World status. >>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 11:13:15 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote: >>>> Speaking of parking indoors: our priest got tired of me taking the bike >>>> into the church (well, it was until a couple of weeks ago a prefab now >>>> used as the hall) to park it in the bathroom or library or kitchen, so he >>>> gave me a key to the outside utility closet. I had seniority rights as I'd >>>> been parking inside since about 1995 and he only arrived in about 2010. >>>> >>>> I think he gave me the key after I wheeled my Ken Rogers into the library >>>> at the start of a parish council meeting .... >>>> >>>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 10:05 AM Patrick Moore <bert...@gmail.com <>> wrote: >>>>> First world problem indeed! But I felt it back when I commuted to an >>>>> office. >>>>> >>>>> First, is there any way you could cajole, plead, whine, insist that your >>>>> employer let you park your bike inside? Do you have an office? I was >>>>> always able to park the bike in my office (once I had a second office as >>>>> a garage) and that solved many problems -- one huge advantage of always >>>>> working for smaller organizations. >>>>> >>>>> Or what about locking the bike in a parking garage, out of the way of at >>>>> least many casual thieves and vandals? >>>>> >>>>> But lastly: If I had had to park outside in the a place with "average" >>>>> risk of theft, I'd have done 1 of 2 things: 1. get a beater that rides >>>>> like my "good" bikes and build it for performance but make it look as >>>>> ugly and cheap as I could; or: 2. uglify and simplify (strip as far as >>>>> practical) one of my good bikes. and in each case, load it up with locks. >>>>> I always commuted on fixed gears so that was already a big step in >>>>> diminishing apparent resale value. >>>>> >>>>> But even more lastly: if there were no alternative and I had to risk >>>>> theft of a $2.5K Clem or ride a bike that didn't feel as good -- I dunno, >>>>> I'd be hard pressed to decide what to do. >>>>> >>>>> I've attached a (yes, another already) photo of my principal errand bike >>>>> (I no longer commute to work) but I do errands and ride to church and >>>>> other places on all of my bikes. New: hot-rodded ASC hub!!! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 7:49 AM Josh C <getjosh...@gmail.com <>> wrote: >>>>>> Hello all. I find myself trying to make a decision regarding which bike >>>>>> to use as my commuter. >>>>>> >>>>>> Background: I live in Indianapolis and ride my bike for a good chunk of >>>>>> my daily needs. I have a short commute to work which is done on bike 90% >>>>>> of the time. I usually work from 5:20-ish am to about 6:30 pm 3-4 days a >>>>>> week. The only days I don't ride in are if it's pouring rain when I get >>>>>> up, or the snow is too deep to get through. I could ride in the rain, >>>>>> and don't mind it on the way home, but already get up at 4:30 am and >>>>>> simply don't have time to change or mess with it on work days. I'm >>>>>> commuting on a Rohloff-equipped Surly Ogre currently and have put less >>>>>> than 1K miles on my car this year. We live near downtown and are a short >>>>>> ride to many things that we like to do. We often ride to ball games, art >>>>>> exhibits, concerts, dinners, drinks...you name it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dilemma: Now I warned you that this is a 1st world problem, but here >>>>>> goes. I have several Riv's and they are my favorite bikes to ride but I >>>>>> find myself on the Ogre more often than any other bike. I may accumulate >>>>>> more miles on my Rivs, as I ride a Toyo Atlantis as my all-road bike, >>>>>> but I do way more trips on the Surly. For some reason, I simply feel >>>>>> more comfortable locking up the Surly for 13 hours or outside of a music >>>>>> venue downtown than I do a Rivendell. In my mind, the Riv seems like >>>>>> more of a target for would-be thieves than the Surly and thus it gets >>>>>> most of the day-to-day duty. The thing is that I enjoy riding a >>>>>> Rivendell much more than the Surly and, after giving this some thought, >>>>>> had decided to buy a Clem when this latest batch of completes was >>>>>> released, and start using it for my daily driver. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, after doing some math in my head, and realizing that I'd likely >>>>>> change a lot of the Clem complete build, I am thinking that I'd might as >>>>>> well ride one of the Rivs that I currently own. By the time I get the >>>>>> Clem to my door, I've spent $2500 with shipping and tax. I'd change the >>>>>> bars, add a saddle, add fenders, have the front wheel rebuilt with a >>>>>> dyno hub, and so on. I'd easily be into it for $3K or more. My Surly has >>>>>> a $1400 rear hub and is easily over the $3K mark. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am lucky enough to have two Rivendell Atlantis and a Hunq. I've owned >>>>>> several others in the past as well. One of the Atlantis bikes that I >>>>>> have would fit the bill. It's the more recent style with the longer >>>>>> wheelbase & double top tube. These are super sturdy bikes that wouldn't >>>>>> mind being loaded up and taken to work. I've already got a wheelset with >>>>>> a dyno hub and a light lying around here somewhere. I purchased this >>>>>> bike for $3K this summer from a local guy. I didn't need the bike but >>>>>> just couldn't pass it up as it was so cool! >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought to myself: I've locked up more expensive bikes at work for 13 >>>>>> hours or at music venues until the wee hours of the night without issue, >>>>>> so why not just do the bulk of my riding on a bike that I truly enjoy >>>>>> riding? What am I saving it for? >>>>>> >>>>>> Questions: Is my logic sound? Do you think that riding a nice Riv to >>>>>> work, to lock it up outside all, day in a city, is a dumb idea? Do you >>>>>> commute on a Riv that is left outside all day? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd also like to use this as an opportunity to see some of your >>>>>> commuters. Feel free to post a pic of your daily driver and also, let us >>>>>> know if you lock it up outside or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> The potential commuter. (I'd change the fenders and bars) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My current all road bike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not a commuter. 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