Any scratch obtained while on a ride adds a little character to the bike and is always a story to tell (even though it feels pretty painful in the moment). Kudos to everyone getting out there!
Josh Bainbridge Island, WA On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 6:05:25 AM UTC-8 Josh C wrote: > For me it's not about not using them, it's more about using other bikes > for the dirty work of commuting, shopping, going for dinner/beers while the > Rivs sit in the garage and only taking the Rivs on longer rides where it's > not going to be locked up outside for long periods. I'm sure you're kidding > but people work for and can afford all sorts of things and don't share > them. A Rivendell is far from a lavish luxury item. I share plenty in > taxes...you keep your dirty little fingers off my bike > > On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 8:51:06 AM UTC-5 modemm...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Man just USE your bikes! I read this blog post a while ago and was like >> "WTF, people will drop a minimum of 2.5k on a bike and not ride it!?!? - >> must be NICE to have that kind of cash!" >> >> Bikes are meant to be ridden. Rivendells will stand up to just that; >> they're very much made for it. >> >> And seriously, if you can afford to have a Rivendell to not use it... >> share? :D >> >> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 8:45:37 AM UTC-5 Josh C wrote: >> >>> This is just the thread that I needed right now; John thanks for pushing >>> it back to the top. I'm considering using a very well-equipped Atlantis as >>> my daily driver/commuter and I guess what I was feeling was a sense that I >>> should be using that bike for its intended purpose instead of riding >>> something that I don't enjoy as much simply to preserve the Riv. I was >>> thinking of buying another Riv (a clem) for this purpose but after >>> considering the cost of it + tax + a few changes, I'd be into it for a >>> similar sum. I might as well ride the Atlantis. I'll report back. >>> >>> John - I agree, your Atlantis ameliorated that rock and the overall >>> aesthetic of that canyon. >>> >>> On Friday, December 8, 2023 at 8:38:03 AM UTC-5 sarahlik...@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Your Atlantis is living life right ! >>>> >>>> On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 3:25:49 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote: >>>> >>>>> On a recent road trip in the Southwest, I rode my beautiful Atlantis >>>>> along the rim of the Grand Canyon from Desert View to Hermit's Rest. At >>>>> one >>>>> point I stopped at a viewpoint, leaned the bike against a rock to take a >>>>> photo, and (of course) it fell over. Still beautiful and ever-so >>>>> functional, the Atlantis has a souvenir from the canyon and the canyon is >>>>> that much more stunning with some Interior Russian blue-green added to >>>>> its >>>>> majestic hues.[image: IMG_2280.jpeg] >>>>> Cheers, John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 10:24:29 AM UTC-7 daniell...@gmail.com >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you Max and Philip! I'm really enjoying the color scheme and >>>>>> how it plays with the changing leaves on the ground. It had its own fall >>>>>> yesterday when a strong gust of wind knocked it over at a coffee shop. A >>>>>> little less precious everyday >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, October 9, 2023 at 12:03:25 PM UTC-4 philip....@gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> An absolutely perfect bike! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P. W. >>>>>>> ~ >>>>>>> (917) 514-2207 >>>>>>> ~ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 9:43 AM, danielle da cruz <daniell...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Joe, me too! They’re calling it Sergio green. It is so pretty >>>>>>> and definitely falls into that faerie-elvish category that Grant >>>>>>> recently >>>>>>> remarked on (warned against?) when encouraging more black parts on >>>>>>> bikes, >>>>>>> but I love it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just rode it to the bookstore for more exposure therapy, locking up >>>>>>> to the painted black bike rack. Baby steps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <image2.jpeg> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Joe Bernard <joer...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's so pretty! I love the Vintage Rivendell Green (I know they >>>>>>> call it something else but this was a color that appeared on early >>>>>>> Rivs). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Joe Bernard >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 5, 2023 at 8:03:12 AM UTC-7 >>>>>>> daniell...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This thread came to mind yesterday when I rode my new Roadini to >>>>>>>> the climbing gym. It arrived in Cambridge from Walnut Creek Tuesday >>>>>>>> night >>>>>>>> and I kept my Cheviot decal-scratching partner and our very >>>>>>>> enthusiastic, >>>>>>>> bike-loving neighbor away as I carefully reassembled it myself with a >>>>>>>> beer >>>>>>>> in the garage. Though they are far more mechanically inclined than I >>>>>>>> am, I >>>>>>>> would not let their less-careful-than-mine mitts near this shiny new >>>>>>>> bike. >>>>>>>> It’s my bike, so of course I feel this, but it truly is the most >>>>>>>> beautiful >>>>>>>> bike ever and I suddenly have that *my bike is precious and must >>>>>>>> not be marred – ever – *feeling. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Fast forward to the agony at the climbing gym. Which area of the >>>>>>>> rack looks cleanest? Which other bikes will be near mine and do these >>>>>>>> bikes >>>>>>>> appear to be owned by kind and considerate people who will be careful >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> to touch my bike with theirs? Should I just bring it inside with me? >>>>>>>> Is >>>>>>>> anywhere truly safe??? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Today it is still precious as I await the first scratch, scrape or >>>>>>>> ding. I look forward to when it’s less precious and I can let my guard >>>>>>>> down >>>>>>>> a bit. The beauty will remain. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 5, 2023, at 10:36 AM, dylan green <dylantho...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I too have a '93 XO-3 as my daily driver. I recently sold my last >>>>>>>> 'nice' bike and am on the hunt for either a Legolas or Toyo atlantis >>>>>>>> as a >>>>>>>> project. The Bridgestone is such a great bike >>>>>>>> I sometimes find myself thinking I don't *really need *another >>>>>>>> bike. But then again, I'm on a group dedicated to bikes... >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 4, 2023 at 10:40:46 PM UTC-7 chefd...@ >>>>>>>> gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I was so grateful to find a '93 XO-3 frame in very good condition >>>>>>>>> a few years back...I built it up as my everyday rider, with a 1x 8 >>>>>>>>> drive, >>>>>>>>> unfancy 26" wheels (with Panaracer Paselas), and an Albastache bar. >>>>>>>>> Basket >>>>>>>>> in the front and a Carradice bag in the rear - it's perfect for the >>>>>>>>> job. I >>>>>>>>> commute most days, taking a one-hour ferry ride across the SF Bay, >>>>>>>>> exposing >>>>>>>>> the bike to relentless salt spray, but I do my best to keep it clean >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> I've grown to love it....meanwhile, I happened upon the most >>>>>>>>> beautiful >>>>>>>>> Waterford-built All-Rounder last spring and scooped it right up. This >>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>> is essentially a mirror image of the B'stone, but so much prettier. >>>>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>>> experimented with several different bar/stem set-ups, none of which >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> quite as good as the Albastache, and I will probably wind up with >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> eventually. That said, I'm hesitant to subject it to the whims of my >>>>>>>>> daily >>>>>>>>> seafaring adventure, especially when I have a bike that is already >>>>>>>>> built >>>>>>>>> for that purpose. So, for the time being, it only gets infrequent >>>>>>>>> weekend >>>>>>>>> attention. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, August 1, 2023 at 3:43:26 PM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>> mathiass...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I draw the line at winter riding where salt is used. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Last year I used a converted 93 Rockhopper as my winter ride >>>>>>>>>> (IGH, coaster brake, studded tires) and on "nice" days, i.e. dry >>>>>>>>>> roads, I >>>>>>>>>> used my Bruce Gordon BLT (Taiwan model). Afterwards I cleaned and >>>>>>>>>> reassembled the rear derailleur -- from maybe a dozen trips on >>>>>>>>>> decent >>>>>>>>>> days, it was a rusty, nasty mess, and so were a number of other >>>>>>>>>> parts. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From now on, only beater bikes in the salt months for me. >>>>>>>>>> The rest of the year, anything goes, that's why I own bikes. I >>>>>>>>>> think of scratches as battle scars, to be worn proudly. >>>>>>>>>> But salt is just wrong. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> cheers -mathias >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 11:22:32 AM UTC-4 >>>>>>>>>> daniell...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Joyce, thank you for your kind words and for sharing that story! >>>>>>>>>>> It immediately reminded me of a quote from a Zen master that I've >>>>>>>>>>> spent >>>>>>>>>>> time reflecting on, but never around my bike until now: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Die while you are alive, and be absolutely dead. Then do >>>>>>>>>>> whatever you want: it's all good. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Your brother sounds like he's got this whole liberation thing >>>>>>>>>>> down :))) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yours in RivSister solidarity, >>>>>>>>>>> Danielle >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:55:52 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Danielle, >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for sharing your story. It's such a pleasure to read a >>>>>>>>>>>> well written tale and I shuddered at the description of your >>>>>>>>>>>> pristine >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheviot losing the battle with concrete. I'm looking forward to >>>>>>>>>>>> the images >>>>>>>>>>>> of diaper swaddling! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Your story reminded me of some advice my older brother gave my >>>>>>>>>>>> younger brother. Both of them avid outdoorsy >>>>>>>>>>>> hunters/fishers/campers/boaters, they drive pick-ups for their >>>>>>>>>>>> adventures. >>>>>>>>>>>> Younger bro gets a brand new Ford and doesn't want to drive a >>>>>>>>>>>> particular >>>>>>>>>>>> road because his new baby is going to get scratched. Older bro >>>>>>>>>>>> says, "Find >>>>>>>>>>>> a track that is overgrown with brush and drive your truck through >>>>>>>>>>>> it. It >>>>>>>>>>>> will get scratched up and you'll never have to worry about it >>>>>>>>>>>> again." So >>>>>>>>>>>> much for precious truck finishes! (And advice from older >>>>>>>>>>>> brothers...ha!) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please keep posting and sharing your new bike decisions & >>>>>>>>>>>> adventures! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> RivSisters, >>>>>>>>>>>> --Joyce (who has accepted the beausage on Clem, but is still >>>>>>>>>>>> cringing at new scratches on Platy) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:47:43 AM UTC-7 >>>>>>>>>>>> daniell...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to all for the kind and thoughtful responses! >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @Jason I get what you're saying and had been thinking about >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Albastache for months. I do like the reach on it and the more >>>>>>>>>>>>> assertive >>>>>>>>>>>>> set up (why does aggressive feel wrong to me in the context of me >>>>>>>>>>>>> biking??). What ultimately pulled me away was the brake set up. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>>>>> inverse levers on the Porteur and liked having my hand at the >>>>>>>>>>>>> levers for my >>>>>>>>>>>>> mostly city riding through traffic. Now you've got me thinking >>>>>>>>>>>>> about the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Albatross upside down :) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @Jock I too hope he knows how lucky he is! At the time it >>>>>>>>>>>>> happened I didn't even mention it to him, knowing how much he'd >>>>>>>>>>>>> beat >>>>>>>>>>>>> himself up if he knew what happened in a moment of carelessness. >>>>>>>>>>>>> We had a >>>>>>>>>>>>> riding date out to dinner last night and I mentioned over a beer >>>>>>>>>>>>> that I >>>>>>>>>>>>> shared this story that he of course didn't remember, having never >>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>> told. He asked me to show him my post...I declined :p >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @Johnny Truly appreciate hearing this from someone who's tried >>>>>>>>>>>>> both! I'm also really drawn to the beauty of that bar and am >>>>>>>>>>>>> dreaming up >>>>>>>>>>>>> elaborate bar tape combos a la Grant and Blue Lug. I'm still >>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking I >>>>>>>>>>>>> might want to shave off a bit the swept back length if it >>>>>>>>>>>>> wouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> compromise anything >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @Kim Thank you, great advice and wise move, especially >>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking of anytime it's put on the rack to accompany us on >>>>>>>>>>>>> vacation >>>>>>>>>>>>> (looking at you @Leah and your upcoming trip). Maybe it'll only >>>>>>>>>>>>> be the Chev >>>>>>>>>>>>> that rides the rack. Maybe I'll just accept that inevitable chips >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> scratches that are sure to come, like the scars we wear having >>>>>>>>>>>>> lived. Or >>>>>>>>>>>>> maybe I'll just gather all our old cloth diapers and swaddle it >>>>>>>>>>>>> for the >>>>>>>>>>>>> ride... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:08:46 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ding Ding! wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was reminded of you guys today when I was looking at my >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike. My most precious raspberry one is definitely showing minor >>>>>>>>>>>>>> signs of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> use. It’s dirty. Gritty, even. And the Platypus decal is marred >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (just a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiny bit) and I’m seeing small paint chips begin to form. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am (unexpectedly) comforted by this, because it means that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the bike is having adventures and serving its purpose. I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> putting 4 bikes on my rack for a bike overnight I’m doing with >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the women of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> my bike club. I am rather nervous about the jostling and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent paint >>>>>>>>>>>>>> damage that could occur, but I’ve decided it’s worth the risk to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience of a real bike adventure. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was grinning to myself remembering my old Betty, the first >>>>>>>>>>>>>> “nice” bike I ever had, and how I put all kinds of marks on it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> totally unbothered. I didn’t know it was tragic to mark up your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike at the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> time. Working on getting back to that! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know these imperfections are pretty minor, but hey, it’s >>>>>>>>>>>>>> progress in the life of this bike! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leah >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 21, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Kim H. <krhe...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danielle, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> As a suggestion in protecting your new Sergio Green Roadini >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bicycle, you might want to use some this helicopter tape. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bought some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with plenty left over from my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> protecting her >>>>>>>>>>>>>> against the elements. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QC6H90/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW... I love your storytelling, as well. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kim Hetzel >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yelm, WA. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 5:02:44 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Danielle I have used both the loscos and the chocos. There >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a huge difference to be honest but if you are OK with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the narrow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> width I can say that I don't think there is a handlebar on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is better looking than the losco bar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:55:48 PM UTC-4 John Dewey >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> …Or he’d surely be out on the street, looking for cover. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 1:43 PM John Dewey < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> john...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Danielle, you have the patience of a saint. Your partner >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is lucky man, truly living a charmed life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 20, 2023 at 10:51 PM danielle da cruz < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daniell...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This story hit me in the worst way. Six years ago for a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> milestone birthday I decided to purchase a beautiful orange >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheviot from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Riv. I'd jumped on one that was too large for me that our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local bike shop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had on display and from that moment on could think of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing else. I felt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like a bird taking flight on that bike, so we placed the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> order for my size >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and waited for delivery. I got notice when it arrived and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raced home to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find that my ever-helpful partner had opened the box and was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembling it (you know where this is going)... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On our concrete walkway. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the frame laying on the bare ground, scratching >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> along as he moved it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Taking a bite out of "v" in the Cheviot. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instant decal damage on day one. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scratched down to the steel. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I feel sick to my stomach even thinking about it again. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And so from moment one it was no longer pristine. Very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> special of course, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but not entirely precious and future scrapes have gone down >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easier. Now I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have my finger on the button again, ready for a Sergio Green >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roadini this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thursday. I plan to take D(elivery) Day off from work and be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure my man >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a plan is out of the house :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [image: Chev decal.jpeg] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 15, 2023 at 6:15:59 PM UTC-4 Mojo wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the winter of 2011, I bought a Mark- Nobilette-built >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legolas. It was serious overlap with my 2001 custom Riv >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Road and 2005 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quickbeam. I justified it as my mixed-surface, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> foul-weather, fine-riding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike. I built it up during that winter with pleasing-to-me >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> parts including >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Ritchey Logic crank and a Shimergo drive train (Campy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11-spd Chorus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> brifters mated to Shimano 9 speed XT derailers (12-36 to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 34/46 gearing)). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My very first ride, I took it out to the nearby irrigation >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ditch to snap a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> photo with some mountains in the background. I leaned it up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concrete irrigation valve and before I could snap a pic my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sparkling new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Legolas slid down the edge of the concrete and into the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ditch. The top tube >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scratches were horrible. But those scratches freed me and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Legolas. I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ridden it plenty on paved roads in nice weather, but also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hesitation in gravel, snow, mud mixed with cow scat, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thunderstorms with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> small hail. 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