Oh yes, component specs can also certainly play a factor for anyone wishing 
to adapt things further as the kids grow.  Our REI balance bike frame takes 
a 27.2 seatpost and 1" threaded headset with very short quill stem with 
narrow diameter bar clamp (maybe 22.2 but haven't put calipers to it.) The 
Trek Precaliber takes a 22.2 seatpost, and has a 1" threadless headset and 
stem (I think 25.4 bar clamp but need to double check.)  I figured I could 
find other 22.2 bmx seatposts but guessing my options may still be 
limited.  If it were 27.2 spec instead the post would have likely already 
been swapped with something from the parts box.

This reminds me the convertible balance bike (the one we looked at that 
could convert to a pedal bike) was in fact a newer model Giant Pre as I now 
recall they had an older floor model Giant Pre with some kind of 
proprietary, integrated quill stem/bar/headset with no exposed bolts 
(BULLMOOSE!) as well as hidden bolt wheel axle attachments giving it a very 
seamless look and snag free features vs. the newer model with 1-1/8" 
threadless headset, bottom bracket shell with foot rest insert, threaded 
rear hub for a single speed freewheel (and guessing it was either a coaster 
brake hub or frame drilled for caliper brakes but can no longer remember.)  
Anyway, it was just amusing at how different the same bike models actually 
were just a year or two apart, not just in spec but also in overall design 
and fit.

On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 1:37:03 PM UTC-5 dwyer...@gmail.com wrote:

> My just-turned-four-year-old has only been interested in the small balance 
> bike for a month or two, but now he's advanced to zipping around quite 
> quickly and easily. 
>
> So, I started looking into Wooms and Clearys here in the Los Angeles area. 
> A shop advised me that while the Wooms are lighter and have lower standover 
> height, the Clearys use a standard threadless stem, so you can replace the 
> stem as the kid grows to get a bit more time out of the frame. Haven't 
> tried it myself, but an interesting thought! We have another kid on the 
> way, so I may just go for a used Woom 3 and hold onto it for the younger 
> one.
>
> Great to read all the helpful advice here! I really appreciate it.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 9:59:54 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>>> Oh, one other benefit of some local shops is they sometimes have a 
>>> guaranteed trade in program for sizing up.  I actually think that is an 
>>> option for our Trek if we wanted to trade in for a bigger size with a 
>>> credit applied.  I still need to look into that as I forget if it was 
>>> something with the shop and the Trek we actually bought or another 
>>> dealer/brand.  We have some younger cousins so have been handing down much 
>>> of our outgrown stuff rather than reselling but will need to see what our 
>>> trade in options are for the 16" bike before making any final decisions 
>>> since it may end up making more sense to trade up vs. swapping components 
>>> and keeping it but will see how the fit is come spring and how much 
>>> adjusting is needed.
>>>
>>> Woom also has an upcycling option: 
>> https://woom.com/en_US/products/upcycling-membership?variant
>>
>> Since we have 2 kids we never made use of it (kid brother got a hand me 
>> down Woom).
>>
>>  I'm not sure the upcycling program makes sense since as someone else 
>> said, selling the bike used locally nets you north of 50% usually. We had 
>> someone drive down from San Francisco just to pick up our used Woom 4 off. 
>> Kids bikes that are actually used for real mountain biking actually don't 
>> wear very much. While I've had to replace chains on the smaller woom 2 and 
>> 3, I discovered that the 4 and 5 just don't seem to wear stuff out as 
>> quickly. 
>>
>

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